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    Posted: 1/15/05 at 3:33am

  Any suggestions as to how to make metal weights?  On a teacher's salary I classify myself as cheap and try and make my own implements. The local tire store was kind enough to give me 100 lbs. of used tire balance weights.  Should I make a metal form in the shape of a square/rectangle and melt down the metal or would it be easier to dig a hole in the ground?  (The Michigan ground is now frozen, this is another factor to consider) Any suggestions would be a help.   Thanks,

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Buy a 55lb and a 110lb Hex dumbell from a sporting goods store. Cut
them in half, dill the handle and attach chain and a ring to em. Worked
for me all last year and nothing has broken.

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For practice implements, melting the lead into a can works pretty well.  You can leave the can attached for ruggedness.  In fact, I'd only remove the can if I was confident that the lead had been melted through:  lead tends to pile up on itself as you pour it, which tends to leave voids and weak spots.  It has to be thoroughly liquefied to avoid this.

I much prefer using 1/2-inch strength-rated forged eye bolts, rather than ones formed from wire.  You can either install the bolt first and pour the lead around it, or drill through it later on for the bolt.  Either way, use a big ol' washer underneath to ensure a good connection to the blob.

One lb of lead is 1.35 fluid ounces, so making a 28 lber takes about 38 fluid ounces (bigger than a quart), and a 56 lber takes about 76 fluid ounces (bigger than a half-gallon).  A 28 will fill a half-gallon can about  60% full, and a 56 will fill the same fraction of a gallon can.  If you're not confident that the lead was melted through, and decide to leave the can attached, you can cut down the can after pouring to get rid of the extra steel above the lead.

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Grasshopper,

That is exactly what I am doing this week. I have already bought the weights and just need to cut in half and drill. Did you need any kind of special drill bit and how did you cut the handle? And you have had no problem with them breaking?

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To cut the handle I used a hacksaw. Forarms hurt after, but it was a good
workout anyway. You will need to by a metal drill bit from a hardware
store. They are not too expensive. Drilling was also hard because it has
tough to keep the weight in place while I drilled. I have had no trouble
with breaking yet. I was worried about it when I started, but no signs of
wear yet. Good luck and get throwing!!

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  Wayne and Grasshopper,

  Thanks for the help.  I'll let you know how the weights turn out. 

   Stay Healthy,

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Using hex DB heads sounds pretty easy.  For drilling, I'd recommend finding someone who has a drill press.


I've got a couple hundred pounds of standard plates that I don't use, so I'm planning on using them. 
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Dave —
You got some good replys, but for what it is worth, here is one: I took a metal rod, attached a cap to one end , used 5 pound weights to the weight I needed, attached another cap to the top top (this one with a hole in it and an eye bolt attached, hooked it to a chain that was hooked to a handle. The hardest part abou the deal was getting a good handle from a local welder .
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Jeremy,
Another good tip. Sorry to bow out of the Beaver Island thing.
How is the prep work for it going? I am waiting for the Alma
application to be posted. I have been reading the weights
some of the guys have been posting (including you) and think I
am no where near those numbers and I need to practice my
throwing even harder. Either that or start a 175 and below
class. Take care of the family and stay healthy.
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The prep work is not really going anywhere...damn Irish.
Anyhow, I may not even make it this year to the island as the air ticket prices have gone up ($80-plus a person for a round trip ticket, and no deals for children). So, we are considering having some sort of highland games in July with their annual island history festival called museum week. So far it is just talk at this point...nothing, not even St. Pats, has been nailed down.
As for training, I am ahead of schedual this year (thanks to the change in routine). Once the weather breaks up here I am planning on getting back outside to do some throwing. Now that I have proved to myself and my doctor that I can still take part in the games, my new goal is to start increasing my distances, improve my techniques and be a real competitor in the future. Look out. I am determined now.
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Dave,

I am planning on buying some weights from the Old Celt, it will be a little late, but if you come to Fort Wayne, I will give you my home made set.  I made mine by using a some 3/4 metal conduit, a floor flange and a cap, i just slid on 5 and 10 pound plates, drilled a whole in the cap, put an eye bole through the hole, then you just need a handle and some chain.  Thinking back, the hex dumbbell idea is much better, but like I said, if you want my old set you are welcome to it. 

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Damon,
Thanks, I would gladly take them off your hands. I plan on
hitting Ft. Wayne if all goes well. Do the Indiana Boys plan on
having Elkart this year? Isn't Elkhart the competition that was
once in South Bend?   I would like to add that to my schedule.
Thanks again,
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I'm pretty sure, I think Craig Morehead put it together last year and I am planning on going this year.  If you don't have his contact info e-mail me and I'll give it to you.  damonbarth@yahoo.com
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  Damon,

  I sent him an e-mail and am awaiting his response.  How is Jody doing? He thought about dropping down to the 190's. 

  Thanks,

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Jody is working out with Craig now, so he'll probably hit 290 before 190, he'll be nice and round and barrel chested in no time.

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Craig must have interesting workouts. His neck no longer
exists. Please tell Jody this would be a side effect of lifting with
him. Also, the only event I can beat Craig in is the sheaf. I
know Jody enjoys this event and I would hate to see his sheaf
suffer just because he and Craig are working out together.
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Yeah, Craig usually gets the same score in the sheaf and caber, 12.
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I've got a fabricator that, after I described my need for implements,  told me he would welcome the challenge of making good ones.

I've looked through the internet and here and just can't seem to find a proper description.  I know the weights but not sure of things like:

-How long are the chains for the wfd and wob?

-What style of handle is found for most comps?

Anybody know of a site that has a description I could print off for him?  I haven't found anything...

Thanks.

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PFC95, I would truly recomend just cutting a dumbell in half.  It is the cheapest and easiest and they look nice after a fresh coat of paint and they have a nice shape and size.  I tried the same thing of finding a welder / fabricator and after all was said and done I just used the DB's.  Cut off the handle, tap a threaded hole, go to Fastenall? or industrial supply store, buy some good strong eyebolts and screw them in.  Also pick up some strong shackles or clevices while you're there.  Have your fab./weld. guy make two sets of "D" handles and two sets of "O" handle. ( you need two each, cause when u cut that DB you get 2 throwing weights). Make sure when he makes the handle he puts them through the chain before welding.  Use 5/8 round bar if possible.  I cut a 50lb'er in half and had 4 links on the chain for proper length.  I would suggest using a 55 instead, mine is about 1 to 1/2 lbs lite.  When all is said and done the weight WITH chain, clevis and handle should weigh 28lbs and be no more than 18 in. long.  Same for the 42, and the 56.  Hope this helps.  I'll try to take a picture of mine and send it or post it or something if I can figure it out?? 

Damon Barth, you seem to be the person to talk to abut such things, can ya help some guys out??

 

 

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   A BIG THANKS to Damon Barth for passing down his used weights to me.  A great gift. 

 I melted 42 pounds of lead from used tire balance weights over an open fire.  I melted a few pounds at a time and poured it into a coffee can with an eye bolt in the center.  It took a while and I only managed to spill a pound and a half.  I've only throw the weight a few times but it seems to be holding together. 

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I haven't tried it yet, but I'm thinking that if I can find the right size of cheap  saucepan at (enter superstore here), I could just melt the lead right in the pan, let it cool, and then hopefully the teflon coating will allow the lead to just slide out. That way I think I can avoid the whole idea of trying to melt and pour 50+ pounds of lead in one shot. Anyone tried this?
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Steve, I'd be leary about doing it that way.  Primarily because of the fumes from melted let.  But, also do they make teflon coated pans to withstand the heat to get the lead melted adequately?


I'd say hit up a few garage sales for some standard plates for weight sets and make it that way.
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One Norse,
I melted 42 pounds of lead outside over my fire pit. It took a
while. The fume issue was not a problem. The problem was,
even after wearing 2 thick gloves I could still feel the heat from
the pan as I transfered the melted lead to a large coffee can. I
spilled about 1.5 pounds of the stuff and I now have a 42 pound
weight that ways 40.5 pounds. I think shawnf offers a better
solution. Good Luck.
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Dave, Shawn, thanks for the warnings.

The idea is to use a camp cookstove outside, not my kitchen stove!  I have melted lead tire weights that way before, but I found that it worked much better/faster if I used a propane torch to melt each weight over the heated pot, then the stove would keep it molten. I think I'll try a smaller (28 lb) one to start with and see if the Teflon can handle it. Since I spent a whopping $4 on the pan, and I already have the lead, it's worth a try.
The whole point of trying it in a semi-disposable pan is to avoid having to pick up and pour the molten lead at all. If I can just melt it, and then let it cool in place right on the cookstove, I won't have any chance to let it spill.

One other note: being a science teacher, I am well aware of the toxic properties of lead fumes. Even outside I wear a half-mask respirator with dust/fume filters that I bought for doing remodeling. Safety comes first, even before cheap!


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I built some practice weights myself last year. Since I wanted to have some flexibility in how much weight was on them (light days and heavy days as well as some for kids and women), I went a slightly different route. Here's what I did:

- get a collection of cheap weight plates (yard sale!)
- buy a nice long eye bolt, a some locking nuts and a bunch of washers
- stack the weights (with washers and nuts between them) on the eye bolt

If you use a quick release link to attach the handle to the eyebolt, you only need one handle (or two if you want to practice with round and d-rings).  The weights are cheap enough that you can easily put together 4 or 5 pre-assembled sizes and they are easy enough to work with that you can change them out however you want.

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Totally new to the game, but made my weights using standard plates, a 1" by 6" grade 5 steel bolt ($5 at Lowe's in specialty hardware) and a 3/8 shackle.  For the handle I purchased an ironman ring set for a children's swing set, they are rated to have an 80# kid going nuts on them.  PVC handles are only $11 for two, but the PVC will break if a bad landing on hard ground.  But the metal handles are only $24 for two, you can't beat $12 a handle.  So far they have worked out great.

The 1" bolt fits a standard plate perfect with next to no movement, bolted with a lock washer I get zero movement.  Used the grinded to flatten out two sides of the last inch of bolt and drilled a 3/8 hole to accept the shackle.

Total cost for a 28# weight (it's actually a little heavy) was under $30.

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Was out in the garage making weights tonight.  Got as far as making my hammer, and about half way done with my weight stack.

Hammer was made out of four 5lb standard plates that I got for free from someone, and 3/4" diameter gray pvc pipe.  I cut the overall lengtht to 50", but the total length from handle to bottom plate is about 48.5" due to there being a collar on the end.

The collar on the top of the plates is held in place with athletic tape.  I figured I'd rather have that part easily removable and cut down on any weakness in the handle.  This way, I can add plates or take away as necessary for working heavy or light hammers.


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Another shot.  Before I put athletic tape on the grip area as well as the top collar.


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That's pretty much what mine look like.  They seem to work well.
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Doesn't the PVC break?
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