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    Posted: 11/06/07 at 2:36am

Updated and enhanced. 

In addition to sorting by the total score, I have also provided the ranking for the Overhead Shot Toss, as this is arguably the most relevant test for throwers, at least without factoring in bodyweight.  This will also allow those who don't want to perform the jumps to participate.

By Total:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Name

Date

Height

Weight

SLJ 

SLJ (m)

Score

STJ 

STJ (m)

Score

OH Shot

OHS (m)

Score

Total 

Luke MacKay

Nov-07

6'5"

261

10'4"

3.15

80

31'8"

9.65

83

60'0"

18.29

84

247

Graeme Allan

Nov-07

6'1"

243

10'3"

3.12

79

30'2"

9.19

77

55'9"

16.99

76

233

Craig Smith

Nov-07

6'2"

274

9'9"

2.97

74

29'3"

8.92

74

55'4"

16.87

75

223

Bruce Robb

Mar-08

6'6"

315

9'8"

2.95

73

27'6"

8.38

67

56'7"

17.25

78

217

Sean Betz

Nov-07

6'5"

290

9'3"

2.82

68

27'0"

8.23

65

59'1"

18.01

82

215

Nathan Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

194

10'4"

3.15

80

30'2"

9.19

77

43'5"

13.23

54

212

Bert Sorin

Nov-07

6'3"

242

9'2"

2.79

67

26'8"

8.13

64

58'1"

17.70

80

211

Bruce Robb

Jan-08

6'6"

315

9'4"

2.84

69

26'9"

8.15

64

56'9"

17.30

78

211

Bruce Robb

Nov-07

6'6"

315

8'10"

2.69

63

26'4"

8.03

63

56'10"

17.32

78

204

Chris St. Clair

Nov-07

6'1"

245

9'4"

2.84

69

29'

8.84

73

46'3"

14.10

59

201

Peter Ingleton

Nov-07

6'3"

260

8'6"

2.59

59

26'4"

8.03

63

50'6"

15.39

67

189

Brian Austin

Nov-07

6'0"

220

8'2"

2.49

56

26'9"

8.15

64

44'3"

13.49

56

176

Dave Brown

Nov-07

6'3"

355

8'0"

2.44

54

24'0"

7.32

54

49'0"

14.94

64

172

Bob Weigel

Nov-07

5'8"

3??

8'4"

2.54

57

23'0"

7.01

50

45'2"

13.77

57

165

Hapy Mayer

Nov-07

6'0"

254

8'5"

2.57

58

25'6"

7.77

60

38'6"

11.73

46

164

Mike Wills

Jan-08

5'8"

250

8'6"

2.59

59

23'0"

7.01

50

38'0"

11.58

45

154

Jeff Ford

Nov-07

6'1"

230

7'10"

2.39

52

23'11"

7.29

54

38'5

11.71

46

151

Joel Sim

Mar-08

6'0"

254

8'4"

2.54

57

22'2"

6.76

47

37'5"

11.40

44

148

Tony Robinson

Nov-07

6'0"

278

8'2"

2.49

56

21'6"

6.55

44

34'10"

10.62

39

139

Joel Sim

Nov-07

6'0"

254

7'9"

2.36

51

21'8"

6.60

45

33'9"

10.29

37

133

Bill Gray

Nov-07

5'9"

212

7'7"

2.31

49

21'3"

6.48

43

32'6"

9.91

35

128

Al Dargie

Nov-07

5'9"

220

7'2"

2.18

44

21'8"

6.60

45

30'10"

9.40

32

121

Sean Betz

Mar-08

6'5"

290

 

 

 

 

 

 

60'5"

18.41

84

 

Beau Fay

Nov-07

6'2"

249

8'1"

2.46

55

 

 

 

52'1"

15.87

70

 

BJ Ketchem

Feb-08

5'6"

223

8'9"

2.67

62

27'6"

8.38

67

 

 

 

 

Isaac Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

200

9'7"

2.92

72

29'1"

8.86

73

 

 

 

 

Kerry Overfelt

Nov-07

5'11"

296

8'10"

2.69

63

24'2"

7.37

55

 

 

 

 

Kevin Carpenter

Nov-07

5'11"

264

8'0"

2.44

54

24'5"

7.44

56

 

 

 

 

Mark Valenti

Nov-07

6'0"

306

7'11"

2.41

53

 

 

 

51'2"

15.60

68

 

S McCracken

Nov-07

6'1"

262

8'11"

2.72

64

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By OH Shot:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Name

Date

Height

Weight

SLJ 

SLJ (m)

Score

STJ 

STJ (m)

Score

OH Shot

OHS (m)

Score

Total 

Sean Betz

Mar-08

6'5"

290

 

 

 

 

 

 

60'5"

18.41

84

 

Luke MacKay

Nov-07

6'5"

261

10'4"

3.15

80

31'8"

9.65

83

60'0"

18.29

84

247

Sean Betz

Nov-07

6'5"

290

9'3"

2.82

68

27'0"

8.23

65

59'1"

18.01

82

215

Bert Sorin

Nov-07

6'3"

242

9'2"

2.79

67

26'8"

8.13

64

58'1"

17.70

80

211

Bruce Robb

Nov-07

6'6"

315

8'10"

2.69

63

26'4"

8.03

63

56'10"

17.32

78

204

Bruce Robb

Jan-08

6'6"

315

9'4"

2.84

69

26'9"

8.15

64

56'9"

17.30

78

211

Bruce Robb

Mar-08

6'6"

315

9'8"

2.95

73

27'6"

8.38

67

56'7"

17.25

78

217

Graeme Allan

Nov-07

6'1"

243

10'3"

3.12

79

30'2"

9.19

77

55'9"

16.99

76

233

Craig Smith

Nov-07

6'2"

274

9'9"

2.97

74

29'3"

8.92

74

55'4"

16.87

75

223

Beau Fay

Nov-07

6'2"

249

8'1"

2.46

55

 

 

 

52'1"

15.87

70

 

Mark Valenti

Nov-07

6'0"

306

7'11"

2.41

53

 

 

 

51'2"

15.60

68

 

Peter Ingleton

Nov-07

6'3"

260

8'6"

2.59

59

26'4"

8.03

63

50'6"

15.39

67

189

Dave Brown

Nov-07

6'3"

355

8'0"

2.44

54

24'0"

7.32

54

49'0"

14.94

64

172

Chris St. Clair

Nov-07

6'1"

245

9'4"

2.84

69

29'

8.84

73

46'3"

14.10

59

201

Bob Weigel

Nov-07

5'8"

3??

8'4"

2.54

57

23'0"

7.01

50

45'2"

13.77

57

165

Brian Austin

Nov-07

6'0"

220

8'2"

2.49

56

26'9"

8.15

64

44'3"

13.49

56

176

Nathan Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

194

10'4"

3.15

80

30'2"

9.19

77

43'5"

13.23

54

212

Hapy Mayer

Nov-07

6'0"

254

8'5"

2.57

58

25'6"

7.77

60

38'6"

11.73

46

164

Jeff Ford

Nov-07

6'1"

230

7'10"

2.39

52

23'11"

7.29

54

38'5

11.71

46

151

Mike Wills

Jan-08

5'8"

250

8'6"

2.59

59

23'0"

7.01

50

38'0"

11.58

45

154

Joel Sim

Mar-08

6'0"

254

8'4"

2.54

57

22'2"

6.76

47

37'5"

11.40

44

148

Tony Robinson

Nov-07

6'0"

278

8'2"

2.49

56

21'6"

6.55

44

34'10"

10.62

39

139

Joel Sim

Nov-07

6'0"

254

7'9"

2.36

51

21'8"

6.60

45

33'9"

10.29

37

133

Bill Gray

Nov-07

5'9"

212

7'7"

2.31

49

21'3"

6.48

43

32'6"

9.91

35

128

Al Dargie

Nov-07

5'9"

220

7'2"

2.18

44

21'8"

6.60

45

30'10"

9.40

32

121

BJ Ketchem

Feb-08

5'6"

223

8'9"

2.67

62

27'6"

8.38

67

 

 

 

 

Isaac Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

200

9'7"

2.92

72

29'1"

8.86

73

 

 

 

 

Kerry Overfelt

Nov-07

5'11"

296

8'10"

2.69

63

24'2"

7.37

55

 

 

 

 

Kevin Carpenter

Nov-07

5'11"

264

8'0"

2.44

54

24'5"

7.44

56

 

 

 

 

S McCracken

Nov-07

6'1"

262

8'11"

2.72

64

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I figured that we’d keep a thread and note everyone’s progress/marks. I will continuously update this as needed. This is to test:

Standing Long Jump: Standing at the edge of a long jump pit, with toes slightly over the edge of the board, perform a standing long jump into the pit. Measure from the lip of the board to the closest disturbance of the sand where you landed.

Standing Triple Jump: Feet together, hop three times and land in a long jump pit. Measure from your starting position to the closest disturbance of the sand where you landed.

16lb Overhead Shot: Standing on top of a shot put stopboard (your back to the pit), dip down (much like the preparatory crouch for a vertical jump), swing the shot between the legs, and then extend and throw the shot overhead backwards. It is not necessary to remain on the stopboard. Measure from the lip of the stopboard to the first point of impact.

This is open to anyone, so test it and post the results. Make some bets, challenge yourself and others, get better in the offseason!

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By Total:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Name

Date

Height

Weight

SLJ 

SLJ (m)

Score

STJ 

STJ (m)

Score

OH Shot

OHS (m)

Score

Total 

Luke MacKay

Nov-07

6'5"

261

10'4"

3.15

80

31'8"

9.65

83

60'0"

18.29

84

247

Graeme Allan

Nov-07

6'1"

243

10'3"

3.12

79

30'2"

9.19

77

55'9"

16.99

76

233

Craig Smith

Nov-07

6'2"

274

9'9"

2.97

74

29'3"

8.92

74

55'4"

16.87

75

223

Bruce Robb

Mar-08

6'6"

315

9'8"

2.95

73

27'6"

8.38

67

56'7"

17.25

78

217

Sean Betz

Nov-07

6'5"

290

9'3"

2.82

68

27'0"

8.23

65

59'1"

18.01

82

215

Nathan Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

194

10'4"

3.15

80

30'2"

9.19

77

43'5"

13.23

54

212

Bert Sorin

Nov-07

6'3"

242

9'2"

2.79

67

26'8"

8.13

64

58'1"

17.70

80

211

Bruce Robb

Jan-08

6'6"

315

9'4"

2.84

69

26'9"

8.15

64

56'9"

17.30

78

211

Bruce Robb

Nov-07

6'6"

315

8'10"

2.69

63

26'4"

8.03

63

56'10"

17.32

78

204

Jeremy Gillingham

Apr-08

6'3"

300

8'1"

2.46

55

25'7"

7.80

60

61'9"

18.82

87

201

Chris St. Clair

Nov-07

6'1"

245

9'4"

2.84

69

29'

8.84

73

46'3"

14.10

59

201

Peter Ingleton

Nov-07

6'3"

260

8'6"

2.59

59

26'4"

8.03

63

50'6"

15.39

67

189

Brian Austin

Nov-07

6'0"

220

8'2"

2.49

56

26'9"

8.15

64

44'3"

13.49

56

176

Dave Brown

Nov-07

6'3"

355

8'0"

2.44

54

24'0"

7.32

54

49'0"

14.94

64

172

Bob Weigel

Nov-07

5'8"

3??

8'4"

2.54

57

23'0"

7.01

50

45'2"

13.77

57

165

Hapy Mayer

Nov-07

6'0"

254

8'5"

2.57

58

25'6"

7.77

60

38'6"

11.73

46

164

Mike Wills

Jan-08

5'8"

250

8'6"

2.59

59

23'0"

7.01

50

38'0"

11.58

45

154

Jeff Ford

Nov-07

6'1"

230

7'10"

2.39

52

23'11"

7.29

54

38'5

11.71

46

151

Joel Sim

Mar-08

6'0"

254

8'4"

2.54

57

22'2"

6.76

47

37'5"

11.40

44

148

Tony Robinson

Nov-07

6'0"

278

8'2"

2.49

56

21'6"

6.55

44

34'10"

10.62

39

139

Joel Sim

Nov-07

6'0"

254

7'9"

2.36

51

21'8"

6.60

45

33'9"

10.29

37

133

Bill Gray

Nov-07

5'9"

212

7'7"

2.31

49

21'3"

6.48

43

32'6"

9.91

35

128

Al Dargie

Nov-07

5'9"

220

7'2"

2.18

44

21'8"

6.60

45

30'10"

9.40

32

121

Sean Betz

Mar-08

6'5"

290

 

 

 

 

 

 

60'5"

18.41

84

 

Beau Fay

Nov-07

6'2"

249

8'1"

2.46

55

 

 

 

52'1"

15.87

70

 

BJ Ketchem

Feb-08

5'6"

223

8'9"

2.67

62

27'6"

8.38

67

 

 

 

 

Peter Ingleton

Apr-08

6'3"

262

8'5"

2.57

58

 

 

 

50'7"

15.42

67

 

Isaac Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

200

9'7"

2.92

72

29'1"

8.86

73

 

 

 

 

Kerry Overfelt

Nov-07

5'11"

296

8'10"

2.69

63

24'2"

7.37

55

 

 

 

 

Kevin Carpenter

Nov-07

5'11"

264

8'0"

2.44

54

24'5"

7.44

56

 

 

 

 

Mark Valenti

Nov-07

6'0"

306

7'11"

2.41

53

 

 

 

51'2"

15.60

68

 

S McCracken

Nov-07

6'1"

262

8'11"

2.72

64

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By OH Shot:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Name

Date

Height

Weight

SLJ 

SLJ (m)

Score

STJ 

STJ (m)

Score

OH Shot

OHS (m)

Score

Total 

Jeremy Gillingham

Apr-08

6'3"

300

8'1"

2.46

55

25'7"

7.80

60

61'9"

18.82

87

201

Sean Betz

Mar-08

6'5"

290

 

 

 

 

 

 

60'5"

18.41

84

 

Luke MacKay

Nov-07

6'5"

261

10'4"

3.15

80

31'8"

9.65

83

60'0"

18.29

84

247

Sean Betz

Nov-07

6'5"

290

9'3"

2.82

68

27'0"

8.23

65

59'1"

18.01

82

215

Bert Sorin

Nov-07

6'3"

242

9'2"

2.79

67

26'8"

8.13

64

58'1"

17.70

80

211

Bruce Robb

Nov-07

6'6"

315

8'10"

2.69

63

26'4"

8.03

63

56'10"

17.32

78

204

Bruce Robb

Jan-08

6'6"

315

9'4"

2.84

69

26'9"

8.15

64

56'9"

17.30

78

211

Bruce Robb

Mar-08

6'6"

315

9'8"

2.95

73

27'6"

8.38

67

56'7"

17.25

78

217

Graeme Allan

Nov-07

6'1"

243

10'3"

3.12

79

30'2"

9.19

77

55'9"

16.99

76

233

Craig Smith

Nov-07

6'2"

274

9'9"

2.97

74

29'3"

8.92

74

55'4"

16.87

75

223

Beau Fay

Nov-07

6'2"

249

8'1"

2.46

55

 

 

 

52'1"

15.87

70

 

Mark Valenti

Nov-07

6'0"

306

7'11"

2.41

53

 

 

 

51'2"

15.60

68

 

Peter Ingleton

Apr-08

6'3"

262

8'5"

2.57

58

 

 

 

50'7"

15.42

67

 

Peter Ingleton

Nov-07

6'3"

260

8'6"

2.59

59

26'4"

8.03

63

50'6"

15.39

67

189

Dave Brown

Nov-07

6'3"

355

8'0"

2.44

54

24'0"

7.32

54

49'0"

14.94

64

172

Chris St. Clair

Nov-07

6'1"

245

9'4"

2.84

69

29'

8.84

73

46'3"

14.10

59

201

Bob Weigel

Nov-07

5'8"

3??

8'4"

2.54

57

23'0"

7.01

50

45'2"

13.77

57

165

Brian Austin

Nov-07

6'0"

220

8'2"

2.49

56

26'9"

8.15

64

44'3"

13.49

56

176

Nathan Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

194

10'4"

3.15

80

30'2"

9.19

77

43'5"

13.23

54

212

Hapy Mayer

Nov-07

6'0"

254

8'5"

2.57

58

25'6"

7.77

60

38'6"

11.73

46

164

Jeff Ford

Nov-07

6'1"

230

7'10"

2.39

52

23'11"

7.29

54

38'5

11.71

46

151

Mike Wills

Jan-08

5'8"

250

8'6"

2.59

59

23'0"

7.01

50

38'0"

11.58

45

154

Joel Sim

Mar-08

6'0"

254

8'4"

2.54

57

22'2"

6.76

47

37'5"

11.40

44

148

Tony Robinson

Nov-07

6'0"

278

8'2"

2.49

56

21'6"

6.55

44

34'10"

10.62

39

139

Joel Sim

Nov-07

6'0"

254

7'9"

2.36

51

21'8"

6.60

45

33'9"

10.29

37

133

Bill Gray

Nov-07

5'9"

212

7'7"

2.31

49

21'3"

6.48

43

32'6"

9.91

35

128

Al Dargie

Nov-07

5'9"

220

7'2"

2.18

44

21'8"

6.60

45

30'10"

9.40

32

121

BJ Ketchem

Feb-08

5'6"

223

8'9"

2.67

62

27'6"

8.38

67

 

 

 

 

Isaac Burchett

Nov-07

6'2"

200

9'7"

2.92

72

29'1"

8.86

73

 

 

 

 

Kerry Overfelt

Nov-07

5'11"

296

8'10"

2.69

63

24'2"

7.37

55

 

 

 

 

Kevin Carpenter

Nov-07

5'11"

264

8'0"

2.44

54

24'5"

7.44

56

 

 

 

 

S McCracken

Nov-07

6'1"

262

8'11"

2.72

64

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Question on the shot - I assume this is one handed.  Is the shot reverse grip like the wob or like a curl grip??
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Originally posted by AlDargie AlDargie wrote:

Question on the shot - I assume this is one handed.  Is the shot reverse grip like the wob or like a curl grip??

It's two handed.

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Al, let's do this together. I'll show you how to do the OH Shot. I have a 16 pound shot that we can use.

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Al,

The shot is cupped in two hands, much like a caber.  I think you would have to be Bert's dad or Phil Phister etc. to do it one handed with a 16# shot!!!

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6'3" 280 slj 3'5  tj 10'2  ohshot 15' 3/4"

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Originally posted by LarryBrock LarryBrock wrote:

6'3" 280 slj 3'5  tj 10'2  ohshot 15' 3/4"

Dont worry, next time will be better im sure. 

 

Seriously though, you should do this.

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I did this last year with my throwers.  Its a cool test. We also had the 30 Meter sprint.....the bad thing was I outran all my throwers ahahahahahahahahah.  Ill try and dig up me scores
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yea, i took the sprint out.  i'm not running anywhere.

You should retest Brock.  for the here and now.

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im testing on Friday...hoping my ankle holds up through the jumping part.   Im 10 weeks out and still have pain in it.
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Im in on the jumps I ant running eather.

6'1 262 11/6/07 SLJ 8.11

Doing STJ / Shot tonight got rained out last night.

Should I do this before or after leg training?

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Im in. Im going to test this shiznit tonight.

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I will hop in on the test as well. I have not done the 30m sprint in a few years, nor am I going to start. Last time it felt like my hamstrings popped off and flapped around behind me like a tail as I ran.

Will hopefully do the OH and maybe jumps today. It is a good test, As I was peaking before Scotland and Am Worlds last season, my OH shot jumped up a few feet, I knew I was ready and recovered. A key to making it a true test is to remain at the same level of proficiency. If you have never done overheads, and then do them all the time you will get more skilled at the test, and could have "monster gains".  If you do them a lot now, stay with them, if not, take that into account.

My roommate in college had a sick quad score. 67' overhead shot, 3.55sec 30m dash, 10'5" standing broad, and about 27-29' triple jump. He was 6'5" 265-280. Pretty nasty. Just for the hell of it he had a 550 raw bench, 429 power clean, 320 snatch and could squat a lot (620x5), never maxed. Serious horse power. 62' stand with the 18lb. shot in training!

This will be fun!

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Today is the 6th not the 7th I just noticed.

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yea, thanks.  The chart lists the month and the year
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Do all three have to be done during the same workout? Or could you perform 2 one day and the 3rd a day or two later?

Was interested in getting in on this but can't test OH shot till the weekend.

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I don't think they have to be the same day.  I did my SLJ last weekend and will do the other two this week (i too got rained out yesterday). 

Can't wait to hear Chris.

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Originally posted by S McCracken S McCracken wrote:

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I hate to put a dampner on any type of competitive off-season activity but you guys have too realize that this Quad testing was specificialy designed for Javelin throwers.   Hence the slant towards the speed -strength end of testing.

I would not want to give any of the p.t's or orthopedic surgeons any richer from the ankle-knee's  OR hamstrig injuries from a test that involves ballistic jumping off one leg and full out sprinting over 30-m.

I would say the risk of injury form a standing TJ OR 30-m sprint far outways the reward and in reality is not very valuable information for a Heavy Event athlete anyway.

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They also use it to evaluate olympic bob sledders.
Meaning people named Bob who ride sleds.
In the olympics.

Here's one:

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So....well i guess i'll be switching to javelin next year. 

This for fun and to have some competative drive in the offseason.  We took the sprints out and there are no one leg bounds.  The numbers are just something different than "list your best squat, deadlift, clean, etc..."

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I went out and did the test today.  It was 40 degrees, outside.  I threw the 16# indoor shot off the discus circle.  I jumped from the concrete to the grass on the SLJ, and jumped off grass on the TJ with both legs.

SLJ = 9'3",  I had to one-up Craig.

OH Shot = 59'1" all three were over 57'

TJ = 27'

Be careful when testing. Next time I"ll actually find a long jump pit. I about ruptured my sack on the last TJ.   I did a pull workout yesterday with Snatches, Snatch Pulls, and Snatch deads.  I think it actually helped my OH Shot.

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Can I play? Maybe my fat arse will get off the sofa and do something constructive? instead of reading medical books
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See, now i can't wait to do it again to see if i can outjump Sean.  Fuel on the fire baby.  Tomorrow, you're going down Betz!!

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Test Done.

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STJ = 21' 6"

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Originally posted by Coach Mac Coach Mac wrote:

I hate to put a dampner on any type of competitive off-season activity but you guys have too realize that this Quad testing was specificialy designed for Javelin throwers.  

I have never ever heard or read this before.  Certainly our entire throwing group formally went through this series of tests (including the 30m sprint) a few times a year and we were mostly discus throwers and shot putters, along with one or two jav throwers. 

I have copied this off the main website dealing with the Quadrathlon:

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This test is suitable for all athletes especially throwers (e.g. javelin, discus, shot, hammer) but not for individuals where the test would be contraindicated.

As Craig mentioned and is outlined and noted above, the 3-jumps test involves 3 consecutive hops off both feet.  Single leg jumps are very different and certainly do put a great deal of stress on the achilles tendon and are to be avoided.  In my experience, none of these tests, including the 30m sprint, are dangerous if the athlete is properly prepared, warms up well, and selects a suitable jumping surface.  This is even true of the 30m sprint if the athlete is used to sprinting hard to some extent.  If the athlete has done no preparatory sprinting that test should probably be avoided (as we are) as it could result in a hamstring or perhaps quad injury for such a person. 

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Tony, I see you've trimmed down. You'll have more speed than ever next season. Add your explosiveness and I see some huge throws.
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