Sled Drags

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   Talk to me about sled drags, please.

Questions...

1.) is 
there a difference in workload if the sled slides  on bent tubing, flat 
ski's or is flat all the way across?  The sled I have in mind has to be 
physically big enough to load on some 100 - 150 pound stones. It will 
also have a post for putting on Oly weights...and it might even just 
maybe have a way for attaching a seat to it so that a pretty lass could 
sit on it, get dragged along and wave to the crowd on competition days. 
 The little speed training sleds that Amazon.com sells for <$100 are 
probably not big enough, so this may be a custom job.

2.) If you 
were going to put together a sled drag workout where you pulled the sled
 along, with you facing the sled (so that you are walking backwards) ...
 what would be a good medium workout, for say 4 x 50 feet?   How about  1
 x 50 feet?

3.)  How about weight and distance  for a hand-over-hand sled drag workout? 

Thanks in advance.

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Alan H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Account banned. Joined: 5/19/08 Status: Offline Points: 3135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alan H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Sled Drags Posted: 4/07/11 at 5:48am
	Talk to me about sled drags, please. Questions... 1.) is there a difference in workload if the sled slides on bent tubing, flat ski's or is flat all the way across? The sled I have in mind has to be physically big enough to load on some 100 - 150 pound stones. It will also have a post for putting on Oly weights...and it might even just maybe have a way for attaching a seat to it so that a pretty lass could sit on it, get dragged along and wave to the crowd on competition days. The little speed training sleds that Amazon.com sells for <$100 are probably not big enough, so this may be a custom job. 2.) If you were going to put together a sled drag workout where you pulled the sled along, with you facing the sled (so that you are walking backwards) ... what would be a good medium workout, for say 4 x 50 feet? How about 1 x 50 feet? 3.) How about weight and distance for a hand-over-hand sled drag workout? Thanks in advance.

Alan H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Account banned. Joined: 5/19/08 Status: Offline Points: 3135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alan H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/07/11 at 5:50am
	Oh, and is there a difference between dragging on dry grass vs. dragging on pavement? I would assume so.

C. Smith Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Retired Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Antarctica Status: Offline Points: 6661443	Post Options Post Reply Quote C. Smith Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/07/11 at 6:28am
	1) Different friction is obv going to make a difference. 2) We use 40 yards for all our sled/prowler work. 3) Depends on the goal of the workout, but "as much as you can, as far as you can" seems to be correct answer. Yes, see 1).

Alan H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Account banned. Joined: 5/19/08 Status: Offline Points: 3135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alan H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/07/11 at 7:49am
	40 yards, huh? OK, that's good to know. Craig, do you ever do hand-over-hand sled stuff? How far? How much? I'll take what you do and divide it in half!

C. Smith Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Retired Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Antarctica Status: Offline Points: 6661443	Post Options Post Reply Quote C. Smith Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/07/11 at 8:04am
	It will take a good sawzall and a blow torch to use half, lol. We usually just do our hand over hand stuff with a rope and a truck (same distance tho, 40 yards). It's been longer than I can remember the last time I used a sled for that.

thegnome Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 9/22/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote thegnome Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/07/11 at 8:18am
	I would love to buy a "real" sled, but I also want a farmers walk set up and a log so I'm getting those instead. It's probably not the same but I've been using a really big and thick plastic sled and pileing it full of rocks, weights, kids you name it anything that is heavy. I have an old rapelling harness from my outdoorsy days, hook up and pull. I've had it over 300lbs and it holds up well. I broke a harness loop before the sled so it must be OK. For distance...well however far it is from my front yard at the point where my wife yells at me to the end of the back yard. Pretty brutal at times. I put some vids on my log from last week. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfbCN_Lx8nk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDxOU...el_video_title
	Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!!

kgb1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 641	Post Options Post Reply Quote kgb1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/07/11 at 9:15am
	I use my �redneck� pulling sled. It�s an old F-150 tire with a steel I-beam (which I found on the side of the road) driven into the center. Drilled an eye-bolt through the tread and can attach a rope or strap to it. Empty the set-up weighs 78 lbs and I�ve load roughly another 225 lbs. on to it. I can load it with weights, rocks and even my kids. I�ve pulled it on cement, grass and even in snow during Snowmageden here in Dallas during Super Bowl week. Pulling it on concrete/asphalt does eat away at the sidewalls, so I turn the tire over every few workouts. When the rubber finally gets eaten away. I�ll undo the eye bolt, pull the I-beam out of the center and get another free used tire and make another one. Total cost is next to nothing.
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jpfitness1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 8/26/09 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 499	Post Options Post Reply Quote jpfitness1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/07/11 at 1:05pm
	funny thing happened today. I was doing some heavy (for me) sled drags at my gym. On my last set, one of my buddies dares me to pull the sled with him sitting on top of it. I felt i could do it, so I get set up and start to pull. The gym idiot part now happens. The strap that was running from the sled to my harness decides to snap! Next thing i know, I'm flat on the ground. Luckily, I got my hands down first. So, get/make a good sled AND make sure you have a good cable/chain to attach to it. I'll be heading to home depot soon to get a chain that can handle the extra weight. I think it was eric frasure who had a video of himself doing some sled work. He had a great sled design that looked home made.
	Josh Plumb I may not be good, but I'm consistent

Tim Barber Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 10/16/08 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tim Barber Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/10/11 at 1:12pm
	At the Ju-jistu/MMA school I coach at we could not afford a sled. So we went to the local tire shop and pick up an assortment of tires, from small car to loader and tractor. We are able to do pulls both froward and backwards, and hand over hand work. We use the schools van for pushing. We also use the larger tires for flipping.
	Tap,snap or nap It does'nt matter to me.

Ak thrower Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10/28/06 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 308	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ak thrower Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/10/11 at 1:43pm
	A flat bottom sled has less lbs per square in on the ground , creating less drag , but better speed , Equipment like the Prowler creates more lbs per square inch on the ground because of less contact patches. Prowler type is more versital .
	Remember when mom told us never throw stones ?

JByrne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 7/16/09 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote JByrne Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4/12/11 at 2:40am
	Went down to the town dump, found an old steel wheelbarrow, cut off the handles and wheels, bolted 2 2x4s on the bottom of the tub on both sides, then bolted two cut down skis onto the 2x4s, and ran a big eye bolt through the front to attach a harness or rope. ive loaded it to about 300 before it really start to dig in. its not pretty but works well enough