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    Posted: 10/18/11 at 3:24am
Tap and go, or stop and reset each rep. Whats the general concesus on this?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote C. Smith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/18/11 at 3:37am
Originally posted by jsully jsully wrote:

stop and reset


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Depends on your goal. I think touch-and-pull has better payoff for throwers. If you want to be able to deadlift more weight then yup, reset it.
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Originally posted by Mr. Natural Mr. Natural wrote:

Depends on your goal. I think touch-and-pull has better payoff for throwers. If you want to be able to deadlift more weight then yup, reset it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Ed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/18/11 at 6:19am
Yeah right up until you fatigue and you "tap" uneven or too hard and
your butt raises up too fast and you will "go" alright....right to the
doctor. Too many things can go wrong when you try and lift a little
too heavy or when you hit that state of fatigue that we all try and push
through. I do use different height boxes to pull from as well as halting
deadlifts and for the most part I finish my pulls with a good extension
of the hips.
Honestly I prefer to stay somewhat under control while lifting. I use
medball throws and plyos for that elusive stretch shortening cycle.
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Originally posted by Big Ed Big Ed wrote:


Honestly I prefer to stay somewhat under control while lifting. I use
medball throws and plyos for that elusive stretch shortening cycle.


This.

If Dave's reasoning is to take advantage of the stretch reflex, I think there are better ways to go about that. 
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I also agree that you not tap but stop at the bottom and
regroup. Not only for the reasons that Ed and Craig have
pointed out but the down phase of the DL is where you are
more likely to injure yourself.

As you lift you are better braced through your
midsection, chest out with shoulder blades locked, and
glutes engaged. Once you hit the top most of these will
relax(esp your glutes as they are done extending the
hip). This leaves your lower back very vulnerable on the
down phase.

Tapping the weight doesn't allow you re-engage these
muscles and form breakdown can happen rapidly.
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A blast from the past, this is how I plan on doing my
'deadlifts' this offseason...

http://www.youtube.com/user/bigbrock65#p/u/3/CLBoLP_klRE
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I guess that makes sense. I've never hurt myself doing speed DLs, but I like to keep the weight under 75%. You definitely want to lower the bar slowly and in control, but once it touches bottom (I like to use pads to cushion the floor) reverse as fast as you can and explode up. Best lift I've found for caber and WOB. Should look kinda like this, minus the cool socks and wonderbra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DzeG5wwJz4
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[QUOTE=Mr. Natural]I guess that makes sense. I've never hurt myself doing speed DLs, but I like to keep the weight under 75%. You definitely want to lower the bar slowly and in control, but once it touches bottom (I like to use pads to cushion the floor) reverse as fast as you can and explode up. Best lift I've found for caber and WOB. Should look kinda like this, minus the cool socks and wonderbra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DzeG5wwJz4[/QUOTE]

 

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I am with Dave, hit it and get it.  If I can get another by doing this then I get another.  We have a saying in my parts, if you can get one, you can get two.  
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If I powerlift I reset, For the games I tap and go and get the F out of the gym.
However I don't do more than 4 reps per set and I'm not sloppy off the tap.
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in my power phase, i lift and release, then reset and go again! i dont think i'm getting anything out of the down part! so i release, regrip and go again!
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Originally posted by brandell brandell wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOEtJGIpBqQ&feature=relat ed


 


Kinda tap and go...



Yea, I don't do that anymore.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Borges Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/19/11 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by Mr. Natural Mr. Natural wrote:

...Should look kinda like this, minus the cool
socks and wonderbra


I'm guessing she looks better in that outfit than you would. Will, on
the other hand, might be able to pull that off.
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don't over think it, just stand up

 

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Bear in mind that under an appreciable amount of weight,
the bar bends and the plates hang lower when the bar is off
the ground. Touch and go deadlifting will shorten the ROM
of the 2nd rep and after, and will also create the
potential for uneven contact by plates on either side. It's
honestly not a big deal if you are under 75% of 1RM, but as
the weight gets higher, these things matter.
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