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Tim Pinkerton
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Topic: Jud Logan ConditioningPosted: 8/23/05 at 2:51am |
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I found this today and thought that I would share. It is one of the things that Jud Logan uses for conditioning. He called them Russian Circuits. I figure if it's good enough for Jud... Edited by Tim Pinkerton |
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 3:03am |
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these would be on off days or pre-season??
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 3:07am |
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I heard him lecture on this at a UGA clinic a couple years back. I remember it as a preseason conditioning. Correct me if I'm wrong- can't trust the memory much anymore! Satch |
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 3:28am |
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We did these in the offseason as Wire Hammer throwers at SCSU. Not an in season routine as far as I can tell. They are good for conditioning, they make you wanna puke, your lungs burn.......I used to skip them as often as possible.
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 5:27am |
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What's a burpee?
"Week one is 3 times through the circuit ...do each exercise for 3 reps" Is this a circuit per day 3X a week? Or can you break it up, as long as you complete the 3 circuits in one week? |
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 5:57am |
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A burpee- from a standing position- squat down with hands on floor- shoot feet out and do a push up and then return to a standing position - that is one rep. As I recall- it was done once a week. It is not easy. You could jump on the ring board and ask him. He usually watches that board.
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 6:13am |
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Basically what Satch said except that you JUMP back up as high as you can on each rep. This animated gif is almost correct but it doesn't show the top of the leap.
This link has an excellent video: http://www.warriorforce.com/articles/burpeeclip.htm Edited by Borges |
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 6:40am |
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In the Marine Corps, we called them "Bend and Thrust" (which I always found humerous, but my mind always was in the gutter). Man, I hated those, because they KILL you, but unlike push ups or sit ups, you can do them forever, just slower, and slower, and slower. Those bastard DI's would say, "BEND AND THRUST....BEGIN" and then walk off, maybe coming back a half hour later to see if you'd died. I'm glad you posted this as I was unsure what a Burpee was.
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 7:05am |
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No, this is not for "in-season". You are correct. It is for pre-season conditioning. That, or punishment!
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 8:19am |
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Thom, I think you are talking about what is usually called a squat thrust. The difference is the max effort jump at the top of every rep. Burpees are NOT squat thrusts. |
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Posted: 8/23/05 at 3:20pm |
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Ha ha tim,,,,let me guess you got that off of the EFS site? I was the one who posted Juds Russian Circuits. Nice to see someone actually reads my posts once in awhile.
Jud got me doing these starting back in 1999 he was using them as part of his pre-season conditioning for Sydney. I usually do them to start off my out of season training.
I work the circuit three times a week and add some jogging or stationary bike 2 times a week. The circuits (if you do them right) will beat the crap out of you. I usually set up the stations far enough away from eachother so I have to run from station to station...take your heart rate as you lie on the floor between sets...and you will be lying on the floor...when you get up into the 200bpm area you are in the zone!
I usually drop between 10-20lbs. in a months time ...depending on how my diet is during the month. Edited by Valenti |
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Posted: 8/24/05 at 1:59am |
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Damn, I didn't even read the name on the post, sorry. I just saw that "gem" posted on there so I grabbed it and brought it here to share the wealth. Actually, I read a lot of your posts over there. That Q & A section is a valuable tool! I hope you don't think I'm trying to steal your thunder.
Thanks Valenti!
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Posted: 8/24/05 at 2:44pm |
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This actually developed from the Toger Man (AKA-
Lance Deals coach) and Jud is a devotee of Stewarts (a Scot too bye the bye) The European approach too conditioning is to GET in SHAPE to lift...NOT lift to get in shape...! Body weight circuits are SIMPLE and EFFECTIVE...we have found a way to do this in the wt-room and develop some muscle mass at the same time...as usual WHO are we training...a newborn or someone that has a training age of 12- years ect. THis is VERY important as the older the training age the more VARIETY to stimulate the system !!! Food for thought...maybe a crummmmmb !!! |
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Posted: 8/24/05 at 2:54pm |
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I couldn’t help myself but to comment when I saw this post. It brought back some interesting memories. “Circuits” are a preseason routine that should be a staple to any pre season training program, especially for throwing. They are one of the best ways to feel like a wrestler and prepare your mind and body for a long hard year of training and competition. The exercises listed are not the only ones that can be used. There are several more that can be used effectively to prepare you for throwing and lifting. Emphasis on core muscle groups involved in throwing are the targets as well as the ever so useful puke factor of conditioning. The month of Oct and Nov were used for "Curcuits". I have always been prepared to train when I used “Circuits” as a precursor. On the first day you perform the first exercise 3 times then immediately move on to the next exercise and perform it three times and on to the next. You would repeat this three times and think that wasn’t so bad. The next day the reps would up to 4 and repeat the circuit 3 times and say that wasn’t so bad. By the time you got to 5’s or 6’s you were sore and it was getting hard. If you missed the required reps on an exercise you are not allowed to move up in reps. The first set you need to hit the required number of reps or you are not ready to move up in reps. For example the first circuit you need to get say 7’s but the next set you only get 6 on a couple of exercises, you need to stay on 6’s until you get them all. So it would be 7’s, 6’s, 6’s until you can go 7’s, 7’s, 7’s. The idea is you cannot begin lifting until you achieve 3 sets of 10’s. Get 10’s 2 workouts in a row and it’s game on. When you do “circuits” with a couple of people it gets interesting because you pick a starting exercise and everyone waits for the first guy to go then the next guy and so on. You don’t want to be the guy holding everyone up letting them rest while your trying to suck it up and finish the exercise. It gets competitive not letting the next guy catch up to you or giving some one else a rest. We used some different exercises than Jud but I think we all got it from the same place and the concept is all the same. I believe we used 10 different exercises al together. There are a lot of “old” school workouts as well as active stretching workouts that work real well for throwing. A circuit is one of them and it is surprising that more people don’t know or use them in there training. Give it a try next year. PS We used them 2-3 times a week but were doing alot of throwing drills and trying to get down to a 6 min mile. Yes, I got very close to a 6 min mile at the end. |
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