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First Log. Here we go!

Age: 40

Height / Weight:  6'2"/230

Weightlifting experience: Started lifting about a year ago. Just messing around really until this winter I started the Texas cycle workout. Now I am on Matt Vincent's preseason Speed Power workout.

Highland Games experience:  I started shortly after my wife. She trained for the Midwest Championship in Columbus, IN for about 6 weeks in 2012 and I kinda played around throwing with her. After that competition I decided to do the Indianapolis Games last October and took 4th in the C class. Most important I fell in love with the sport and the people. Now I'm hooked.

Advantages:  So far I would say dedication is my big advantage. Sure not strength. LOL

Challenges If I can get my lower back to stop locking up every day that would be great.

Competition goals:  Win a C class! Beat my 16 year old son that took third in Indy.

Get good enough to join a Masters class.

Current programming: 

Lifting – Just finished 6 weeks of the Texas cycle and had great gains. Then switched to Matt's preseason speed/power. Just finished the first week of that.

1RM

dead lift 365

Bench 230

squat 260 (probably could do more if my back wouldn't spaz out on me)

power clean 170

OH press 165

Supplements – I strive for 200 grams of protein a day, BCAA, Glutamine, Gama and a good Multivitamin

Throwing – I throw as much as I can. I have my own implements and standards at my house so it's a little easier. As long as the weather cooperates.


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Saturday it was a cold high of 21 degrees so I didn't do much.

Sunday we went to a local state park to make some dents in the field.
 
28# WFD x 8

16# hammer x 5

22# hammer x 10

110 # practice caber 3 picks 3 turns

We were throwing from a parking lot against a curb so it felt kinda weird
and we were throwing up hill so no PR's

When I say we I am usually talking about my wife and my 16 year old son. We throw together most of the time.

I put a lot of time in working with my wife on her double spin in wfd.
It will take her a bit to get it but she will definitely bust her 2012 PR's when she does.
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Don't worry bout being "good enough" to get into a Master's Class; the prerequisite for this Class is age, not ability. If you're 40+, go for it.
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Originally posted by Duncan McCallum Duncan McCallum wrote:

Don't worry bout being "good enough" to get into a Master's Class; the prerequisite for this Class is age, not ability. If you're 40+, go for it.



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Unsolicited advice:

You aren't going to learn much of anything in the C class. Not disparaging those fellas or anything, but the C class is generally populated with folks who either just started and therefore have relatively unrefined technique, or by people who have been in for awhile and/or don't train all that hard and never got better.

Again, this is not Duncan RAINING on the C class. I mean no disrespect to any of them, or to you.

If I've interpreted your previous posts correctly, I think you want to improve; one of the best ways to do this is to throw your hat in the ring with folks much better than yourself (not marginally or occasionally so) and learn what they have to teach. If improving your throws is truly what you're after, you should, in theory, be hell bent for leather to get out of the C class and into the deeper water.

If what you really want to do is win medals or "win your class," I can think of no better way than stepping back from the challenge of stiffer competition.
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Originally posted by Duncan McCallum Duncan McCallum wrote:

Unsolicited advice:

You aren't going to learn much of anything in the C class. Not disparaging those fellas or anything, but the C class is generally populated with folks who either just started and therefore have relatively unrefined technique, or by people who have been in for awhile and/or don't train all that hard and never got better.

Again, this is not Duncan RAINING on the C class. I mean no disrespect to any of them, or to you.

If I've interpreted your previous posts correctly, I think you want to improve; one of the best ways to do this is to throw your hat in the ring with folks much better than yourself (not marginally or occasionally so) and learn what they have to teach. If improving your throws is truly what you're after, you should, in theory, be hell bent for leather to get out of the C class and into the deeper water.

If what you really want to do is win medals or "win your class," I can think of no better way than stepping back from the challenge of stiffer competition.


Thanks for the encouragement.
I definitely do want to get better and I do plan on entering in to masters this season. Right now I have 2 things holding me back:
I am competing with my son who is 16. He is still C class and I want to throw with him to push him and be by his side till he gets some friends and is comfortable competing without me. I am pretty sure he will move up to B class very soon at that time I want to move to masters. I will be getting close to B class distances on my throws as well and I don't want to move to B class.
(56 pounder ugh)
Also I'm not real outgoing so I'm A little afraid I won't fit in very well with the masters.
(not because of anything I have seen or heard, it's just me)

As you mentioned there are great benefits to throwing with the masters. Mainly the knowledge I can soak up. Also it will be great on 2 day events where I can compete on Saturday and cheer for my wife on Sunday.

In no way am I a metal seeker unless it's the top metal. My opinion is 1st in a C class is the best of the worst. That would be ok but that's not my goal.
I competed In my first games last year with 2 brothers that supposedly were competing for there first time. I found out later (after they took 1st and 2nd place) that it was there first year but they had competed at 2 other games and took 1st and 2nd then as well. They should have entered B class but they seeking the metals. That will never be me.


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Monday:
Throwing

16# sheaf
5 from ground just in front of right foot
5 60%
5 full throws

22# stone
5 with toes to the trig
5 60%
8 full throws

56# WOB 
5 full throws





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Monday at the gym

5 Minute warm up on treadmill
stretch

bench 145 x 10 x 3

dead lift 240 x 10 x 3

Power clean 145 x 8 x 2

seated box jumps 5 x 10

All focusing on power and speed

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Didn't do much today
My box jumps from yesterday are setting in. Ouch!

Gym

stretch 5 minutes

push press 105 x 10 x 3

chin ups 3 x F (fail is usually 8 reps)

Played some Black Ops II
good thumb work
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Wednesday:
Had trees cut so I could grow some grass where I throw this summer instead of throwing in the mud. Didn't do much else.

Thursday and Friday: not much. I felt a little fatigued for some reason.
Helped my wife train a friend that wants to throw at Shamrock games with us.

Saturday: went camping Threw some stone in the State park camp ground. (there were only 2 campers so we didn't disturb anyone)
I ended up coaching my wife mostly.
I threw open stone 5 times Braemar style and worked on my glide a little.
Kicking my left leg is a problem. I can't get any snap in it.

Sunday: threw LWFD about 10 times but not very good cause I was so stiff from sleeping in the camper I think. I also threw light hammer about 4 times but just wasn't feeling it.

Sunday eve: Worked on WOB with wife.
I threw her 28# about 12 times in between her throws.
When she was done I threw the 56# 8 times 
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Monday

Gym:
worked on footwork and box squats with the wife 45 minutes.

18# medicine ball throws 75 throws 3 different ways.

Bench 150 x 8 x 2

leg press 480 x 8 x 3

incline bench on machine 180 x 6 x 3
only half extension do to left shoulder pain

All lifts focus on speed and power
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Tuesday:
Gym: power clean into a push press 120 x 8 x 2
dead lift off of 6" blocks 256 x 8 x 2  (pulling hard and fast up into a shrug on toes)

Throwing: 42# WFD 5 full throws
 weather sucks so we were throwing in the rain Disapprove
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Wednesday:
Gym:
5 minutes on elliptical
hammer curls 30# x 3 x 10 each arm
incline bench 100 x 3 x 6 (left shoulder pain)
lat pull downs 200 x 3 x 10
triceps pull down 90 x 3 x 10
low rows 180 x 3 x 10 on machine
deadlift from blocks with bar at top of knee. pulling into a shrug on my toes 400 x 8 x 2

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LWFD 5 1 turn throw at 60%
          5 full throws


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Thursday:
Rainy, snowy and cold
Threw LWFD 5 1 turn
                    10 full throws
was sucking pretty bad. I am blaming it on the weather
worked on open stone a little.

I think playing with the 400 pounds yesterday was a bad idea. I was really stiff today.

I am thinking, tomorrow off and throw hammer and caber Saturday.
Then off to the Arnold on Sunday.
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Saturday: Threw light hammer 20 times felt pretty good. I really have to focus on keeping it slow until the last turn then pull hard. If not it gets going too fast and I cant keep up with it so my low point of my orbit gets too far left. Had some pretty good throws and set a PR
Sunday: got up and drove 5 hours to the Arnold Classic. Watched the events and drove 5 hours home. GREAT Experience!
Threw LWFD about 10 times when I got home. I was very stiff from riding in the car.
Monday: I had a full day of crap to do so no training.
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Tuesday: watched a yoga video that I barrowed (thinking about trying it)
Wednesday:
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5 minutes on row machine
5 minute stretch
hammer curls 35#3 x 10
jump and toss 18# med ball 3 x 10
seated box jumps 4 x 10
jump off 1 box to floor then up on another 4 x 10
Started the yoga. Did 15 minuted cause that's all my body could stand.
Throwing tonight and more yoga
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Be patient with the yoga.  Don't make achieving the pose the goal.  Use the pose to teach yourself something about your body and you'll be okay.  Remember to breathe.  It's easy to forget that when you're in a weird position.

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Originally posted by Jeff Ingram Jeff Ingram wrote:

Also I'm not real outgoing so I'm A little afraid I won't fit in very well with the masters.
(not because of anything I have seen or heard, it's just me)


Dude this post makes me sad.

You will be just fine. I have never thrown in any class anywhere where I felt unwelcome or like I didn't fit in, and I am as big a misfit as any fu**er on this board.

Masters, in particular, is more about the people and the experience than the numbers- that is my opinion. Of course it's taken seriously and people ant to do well but if you read what people post about it, numbers are by no means the be-all and end-all.

Show up. Attitude is everything, not strength. You'll be just fine I promise. I'd bet what's left of my career on it and that's no small thing cause I cherish every time I get to hit the field.

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Thursday:
Throwing: Sheaf 5@16' (warm-ups) 1@20, 1@21, 1@22, 1@23 fail, 1@23 made, 1@24, 1@25 PR
quit on a good note.

Tom, yoga is tough but I think it will be a great asset to loosen me up and improve my balance.
breathing is the hard part some poses are very tough and panting is common for me.

Jeff, Thanks I'll be in masters before you know it and you guys will be trying to figure out a way to get rid of me LOL

Sean, You won't be making fun of me cause I won't be there. I'll be in master pointing and laughing with you.
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Sean, You won't be making fun of me cause I won't be there. I'll be in master pointing and laughing with  AT you.
 
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Friday:
Throwing:
LWFD 5 no spin
          5 1 spin
          5 full throws
I don't know why but 3 weeks ago I set a pr with a double spin and now I am off balance about to face plant and I can throw better with a single spin. Ugh 15 days to my first comp of the year and I am sucking at this.

WOB 1st time with the 42#er
         1 @ 12 made, 3 @ 13 missed 1 @ 13 made, 5 at 14 missed. I was sooooo close but I got pretty burned up so I had to stop.

Great weather forecast for the weekend so Throw! Throw! Throw!
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If we need someone to make fun of prolonged time in the C class, I'll volunteer Wink
 
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Oh I forgot I did a whole session of yoga on Friday. 30 minutes without passing out. Clap

Saturday:
1.5 hours of foot work with the wife. Working on spinning and maintaining balance. Also some Ostone glide drills.
WOB 42# 5 throws finally got my 14# pr that I tried to get Friday.
Caber 14' x 105 practice caber  6 turns 2 non-turns didn't get a 12:00 but that's ok cause last year I couldn't even turn it.
WOB again! Why? IDK maybe cause I have a certain field record in my sights. Threw that stupid thing about 10 times a 14'6" and never got it.
Oh well when I can move my shoulder again I will try some more.

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Oh I forgot I did a whole session of yoga on Friday. 30 minutes without passing out. Clap


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Sunday:
WOB 5 throws with the 42# and 5 with the 56# at 10 feet working on bending the knees farther.
H hammer 5 full throws
L hammer 5 full throws
LWFD 3 single turn, 5 full throws. I think I do better thinking about keeping the first spin a little slower. It seems like I have more control.
Threw sheaf a couple times but broke the rope in the standards at the gym so I have to fix them tomorrow and try again.
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Took Monday off'

Tuesday:
Open stone 3 toe to trig
                   3 braemar style
                   3 glide
42# WFD    6 full throws
28# WFD    3 1 turn throws
                   5 2 turn full throws
sheaf 16#  4 warm ups
                  5 full throws
WOB   42# 4 warm up throws
           56# 4 full throws     PR


Trying to get an Idea where I stand for competition at Shammies. frustrated a bit with OStone I throw farther braemar style so that is how I will throw at the shammies. Same with LWFD my 2 turn is about to drive me crazy. If I can't get it right I will throw 1 turn at shammies.
I was hoping to have more stuff ironed out before competition but I am quickly running out of time

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I haven't posted in a while. What have I been doing? THROWING!
Wed: WOB and LWFD countless times
Thursday: off day. i helped my wife train her friend that is coming to the Shammies with us.
Friday: Cold but we were out in it. I was mainly helping my wife and I threw a little.
Saturday: LWFD I don't know probably 30 throws
                 Sheaf 18' made 19' made 21' made 23' made 25' miss, miss, made 26' made on my 5th try.            Hey that's a PR!
                 Ostone 5 toes to trig, 5 full throws  PR in that too
                 LWFD again DUMB DUMB DUMB 
 Weight slipped out of my hand on the second spin. Would have been a PR instead I face planted and caught myself on my right hand now i can't move my wrist.
I have to compete in 6 days.
Lord heel me quick!
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