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    Posted: 11/28/17 at 9:18pm
Here's a fun topic. Have any of you had heart attacks and continued with throwing? My  wife is pushing hard for me retire from this crazy sport after having a heart attack in September. And I get it, but I love it and want to continue. My doctor hasn't weighed in yet, but I think he was waiting to get results from the echo-cardiogram which I had last week. (Results were really good BTW). Everybody's situation is going to be different, but I'm reaching out to see if there are any stories like mine I can learn from. BTW, I'm 63, started about 5 years ago in novices, and love getting out there are throwing with the old guys. Thanks for reading this, cheers!
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I am in no way medically qualified, everyone is different, and I am half your age but I think as long as you do things to keep your heart healthy and listen to your doctor, throwing shouldn't tax it too much. I know picking and running with a caber can be a bit exhausting breathing wise, but I would imagine it's good exhaustion? I don't know, but any movement has to be better than none. 
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I have had a quad bypass, a ring sewn into the mitral valve and I only have a 20% ejection fraction.  Can't live not to die.  I do pretty much everything wide open.  Lift, throw, fuc.
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"Can't live not to die."

true enough, and you might be channeling William Wallace (Every man dies, not every man really lives). That's pretty damn amazing you are still rippin with what your ticker has been through. Thanks for the encouragement. My doc cleared me yesterday, so its back in the gym.
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It took 2-3 months for the doc to clear you to go back to the gym???
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Dave, that is just the heart list, PM if I can help you.  Sure there are issues day to day and all that you will have to adjust and work with.  Lethargy, dizzyness, diet, recovery, intensity, pharmacology, and your head.  Feel mortal?
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I was on some restriction for lifting--those are gone. I had him put "No restrictions on throwing heavy things" on the visit notes, just for the wife. Big smile
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Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

It took 2-3 months for the doc to clear you to go back to the gym???
That's fairly typical (it seems).  Cardiac rehab is usually 8-12 weeks (if you did it), then cardiologist will evaluate.

I'm not a physician, but I am an exercise physiologist and am familiar with the typical timeline for heart issues.  The physiological (heart) demands of HG are not extreme; since you're cleared to go back to lifting, no reason you can't go back to HG.

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Originally posted by Sammy68123 Sammy68123 wrote:

Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

It took 2-3 months for the doc to clear you to go back to the gym???
That's fairly typical (it seems).  Cardiac rehab is usually 8-12 weeks (if you did it), then cardiologist will evaluate.


Thanks Theresa, that's really good to hear. Part of the problem is that the heart attack happen while I was at a competition. Yeah. I don't believe it was triggered by throwing--we had just finished LWFD and I was feeling great--threw a PR. Sat down under a tree and bam, chest pain. It was good it happened where it did bc they had on-site paramedics and there was a great hospital within minutes.

My echo last week was clean--no apparent long term damage, thanks to getting the stent in within 90 minutes they told me.

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Originally posted by Sammy68123 Sammy68123 wrote:

That's fairly typical (it seems).  Cardiac rehab is usually 8-12 weeks (if you did it), then cardiologist will evaluate.

I'm not a physician, but I am an exercise physiologist and am familiar with the typical timeline for heart issues. 


IANAD either, but my experience with this sort of stuff is very different. 

I'm also making the assumption that OP is not just fat and lazy (like most MI people), otherwise I could see the need for 12 weeks of cardiac rehab, which usually begins with just 5 minutes of walking, lol. 



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Not fat, but often lazy. I'm 6-4:210, never smoked, low cholesterol, decent diet, always exercised, blah blah blah. FFFFFing genes got me. I dropped out of rehab after two visits. They wanted to start me at 5 minutes on the treadmill after I had already been doing 6 miles at 6,000 ft. It was eye opening though, there are some sick folks there are they are working hard to come back--save their lives.

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Originally posted by DaveMorgan DaveMorgan wrote:

Not fat, but often lazy. I'm 6-4:210, never smoked, low cholesterol, decent diet, always exercised, blah blah blah. FFFFFing genes got me. I dropped out of rehab after two visits. They wanted to start me at 5 minutes on the treadmill after I had already been doing 6 miles at 6,000 ft. It was eye opening though, there are some sick folks there are they are working hard to come back--save their lives.

See you out there
Yes, for people who were already exercising, cardiac rehab can end up deconditioning you if you end up sticking to their cookie-cutter protocol (and it IS a cookie cutter approach at times).  Good for you to take matters into your own hands once you recognized that cardiac rehab wasn't going to do much for you.  Also, the other education components of cardiac rehab can be helpful, but you don't get to pick and choose what "subjects" you need and what ones to skip since you already have them covered.

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