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    Posted: 3/15/05 at 3:44am

I need to make a sheaf but I can not find any burlap sacks ?

Anybody selling sheafs and or burlap sacks. I live in Northeast Ohio.

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-Clayton 

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I have bought mine at feed stores and army, navy stores

Walmart fabric dept and some fabric stores carry the material, you could make your own



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I found old bags at Menards. They did not charge me
anything. I filled them with 2 ten pound bags of bird seed. I
figured if the bag tore, the birds would clean up for me. A little
duct tape and it serves its purpose. Keeping in mind I am
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Most of the bags you'll see in competition have a heavy rubber plug in the middle of them to keep the size of the bag to a minimum.  So, if you make one, you'll want to do something similar.  If you can, buy one.  Mine has lasted two years with two people throwing it. 
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I have to do something, I suck at sheaf. I tried to make one with an old pillowcase and duct tape......don't try that at home!

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Jason,

What are the actual specifics on how you made your sheaf?

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I make my own.  It takes a couple of hours to do it, but it will last most of a season. 

Get three of the heaviest and best quality burlap feedsacks from a local feed store.  Also get a big spool of bailing twine.

I would start by cutting about 15.5-16 pounds of bailing twine off of the roll.  Stuff it all into the bottom of your first bag making sure to get it tight into the corners first.  Take a sledge hammer and keep tamping it as tight as you can as you add the twine. 

When you get all of the twine in and have tamped it down as tight as you can, cut the top of the bag off and sew up the seam with sissel rope and an upholstery needle.  Keep tamping it down with the hammer as you go and use the stitches to keep pulling it tighter.  I roll down the top of the bag to sew through a double layer for strength.  I also cut out the corners when I sew up the seam and then sew them tight just to make it more compact.

Then cover it with layer 2 and then layer three, making each one as tight as possible.

That's at least how I do it.  I'm sure there are others a lot better at it than I am.

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all the feed stores in my area use plastic now!
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rgriffis,

I didn't make mine.  I bought it from Troy Fowler.

Another source for burlap bags is coffee shops. 

Mike's method sounds good to me. 

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I have found burlap at even home depot or a place that sells supplies for yard maint.  they use the bags to put all the clippings in the fold it over and carry it off..  I have one of Trows bags also and it is sweet..  time to repair after 3 years...  that is pretty good..
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That is why you don't throw very high Ryan. 3 years and Troys bag is just now needing repair? 
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I found camo burlap at a sporting goods store. They use it to cover duck blinds. The only problem is I can't see the bag after it leaves the fork!
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Mike, sent you a PM
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shawnf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 3/16/05 at 4:12pm
I bought a few burlap sacks at Mill's Fleet Farm.  I'd assume that any farming co-op or supply store would have them.

I think it was 3 for $5.00 or something like that.


While a few pounds light, I bought a big bag of cedar chunks for landscaping.  Mostly to get technique down.  Next time, I'll add in some tire tread chunks.
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I bought a roll of hay baler twine to fill the bag at a tractor supply store for about 7 or 8 bucks. If you go that route, get the natural fiber twine, not the plastic stuff. I got the plastic stuff and it works, but it didn't pack as well, and it just feels a little different from the regular stuff in the competition bags.  I also added weight by putting rocks in the center of the bag. When I make another one, I will go with some form of rubber core, either tire chunks, or maybe cut a chunk from a bowling ball.

Here is an online source for burlap:

http://www.sackraces.com/
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I use an old onion sack, you know, the woven nylon mesh type.  I put an old medicine ball inside for weight...   Pretty decent set-up for practice.  You can get a dozen or so throws before the mesh gets pretty torn up from the fork...

Incidently, I made the medicine ball out of an old basket ball.  I just slit the ball enough to get a funnel in and filled it with sand and then taped the heck out of it with duct tape.  Total cost was 50 cents for the ball from a garage sale...

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Edward Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 3/27/05 at 2:26pm
How much twine is 15 or 16#s?  I weighed a spool 2500 feet long at it was only about 5.5#s. I suppose that means 7500 feet, but that sounds off.
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Another source of Burlap Sacks.

www.harborfreight.com

43769-2VGA
   BURLAP SAND BAGS, 12 PK.
$5.99

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So does anyone have any contact info for Troy or anyone else who sells sheafs?

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Instead of twine, used a 20# sack of birdseed.  Left it in the plastic bag it came in and wrapped in cotton batting, dropped in burlap sack listed above, folded tight down around the seed and sewed across fold with natural twine, then folded back burlap sack inside out and sewed top shut.  (effectively double bagged the seed in burlap) Dropped burlap sheaf inside new sack that was turned inside out and repeated process.

Result, nice 20# sheaf.  Held up nice in two practices, no sign of loss.

Cost two burlap sacks = $1, bag seed $7, cotton batting, $1.50, carpet needle, $1.27, twine = negligible ($1 for 600 ft.) total cost = $11 give or take, and 90 minutes.  I sew very slowly.

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Go to coffee shops, they usually have them for display and have some left over, at least my gf's mom does, that's where we got ours.
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Hossus@cox.net is the e-mail for Troy Fowler.
        
       
       
       
 
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Here's a picture of the sheaf I made last year.  It's made of burlap sack purchased from Mill's Fleet Farm, and about 12-13 pounds of wood chips.




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Another shot of it. I took these pics tonight while I was out in the garage making a hammer and weights.



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