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Edward 
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 Topic: Handles - WFDPosted: 4/27/05 at 5:01pm |
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On the subject of handles. Can they make a difference in the distance you throw. I am having a proper 5/8 steel ring welded, but in the mean time I have been using a PVC iron man ring from a swing set. It's a bit fatter than the competition rings. Don't laugh on this part. With my homemade weights LWFD I only throw in the mid-30' range with any consistency. But at Warrensburg, I threw 44'. I chalked it up to adrenaline, but will the handle make any difference? |
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Edward
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Posted: 4/27/05 at 5:02pm |
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As a disclaimer. I am new. Started practicing in February. First games was Warrensburg.
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BigdogEMT
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Posted: 4/27/05 at 5:41pm |
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Ed I started with the pvc and then went to a metal ring. I cant tell if there is any difference. I thew bad before and after!!! Terry
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BillB
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 3:57am |
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My crude weights at home have no swivel and a small round handle.It seems that at almost every contest my throws get a little bit longer.I hope it keeps going this way.Practicing with the crumby weights makes the good weights feel a little bit easier.
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Richard Doria
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 9:04am |
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A fatter handle requires tremendous strength to hang onto. You tend to slow down during the turns in order to hang on to the weight. A smaller handle will allow you to spin faster, and speed of release gives you distance.
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Edward
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 11:46am |
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I have noticed that when my spin is on it's really hard to hold onto. As a matter of fact last night while throwing, I got that feeling like the satisfying 'tink' of a perfect hit golf ball, but coming around on the second spin I lost it low and to the side before releasing. It went way right but very low.
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Wayne Hill
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 11:55am |
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You should try a hooked grip. Lay your thumb by the side of the
handle (not around it), then wrap a couple of other fingers over your
thumb (not too tightly). Your thumb can get bruised with this, so
wrap it with tape first. If you put a little tacky on the tips of
the fingers you wrap over the thumb, your grip will be nearly
bullet-proof.
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Roy Bogue
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 12:13pm |
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Wayne is the KING of hook grip explanations, unfortunately I never use a hook so it means little to me. But good work Wayne as always!
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Wayne Hill
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 1:11pm |
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My hook grip explanations are legendary.
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"We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 1:18pm |
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Gotta ....go......hook......something.....RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
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Wayne Hill
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 2:21pm |
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<arcane_rugby_analogy>I dunno, Mike, I picture you more as a loose-head prop than a hooker.</a_r_a>
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big MAC
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Posted: 4/28/05 at 11:13pm |
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At least not a tighthead prop, you gotta be a sucker for punishment to play there, I played loosehead the last 4 years, lock the previous 7. Hook grip is God's gift to mankind, it truly is, just get used to it in the gym cause it will hurt, after a while you'll find you're driving with it!
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 4:44am |
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this is true - I have absolutely miserable grip strength. I always use straps for all pulls (cleans, snatch etc) and usually even use a strap for throwing weights in practice (my brothers's trick as well) All this is ABSOLUTELY fine because I can ALWAYS rely on hook gripping the weights. As well, by locking it in, you don't have to worry at all about losing the weight which results in a relaxed, long arm rather than a tense, shortened, flexed arm.
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Roy Bogue
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 4:49am |
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[QUOTE=will barron]this is true - I have absolutely miserable grip strength. QUOTE] What a shocker Will, you can't be serious!?
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 5:07am |
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What the hell do you do, sit around online waiting for people to post so you can flame 'em? I thought you had a job. Go put on some mousse or something, or we'll start calling you brandell!
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 5:22am |
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Ok Wayne - never played rugby - a hooker is the guy who pulls the ball back and out of the scrum,right? What in the hell is a loose head prop ? Sounds like a job for an offensive lineman type.
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 5:38am |
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My posts have been compared to brandell, Damn. I need to look within and correct this problem asap. Thanks for ruining my friday Dave. If I can't correct this an Intervention may be required. Just love me, Roy |
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Wayne Hill
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 6:18am |
Right. The hooker is the smallest scrum player, and is supported so his feet just barely touch the ground by two fellers called the props. One is the loose head, and the other the tight head, because when the two scrums come together the loose head has his head free, while the tight head has his head stuck between the opposite scrum's loose head and hooker. Being the tight head prop always struck me as a lousy job, because if the scrum collapses (which happens, what, 10% of the time) his head is driven into the ground, while the loose head is standing there looking down at him and laughing. Since the loose head has better mobility than the tight head, the person who ends up with that position is often a real character, for example a person who knows all the dirty tricks (like when exactly to grab the opposite tight head's jersey to collapse the scrum). In other words, calling a guy a loose head is like saying he's smart enough to play defense. Grin, duck, and run. -Wayne |
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 6:46am |
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An ancient old coach of our said the easiest way to decide if a kid will play defense or offense was the wall test. Line 'em all up in front of the stadium wall.......yell "Charge!!!"....if they hit the wall- defense .....if they said why not go around or over or worked together - offense.
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 8:18am |
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Just curious - how many other HG folks played rugby? Alot of similarities in the comraderie between these two sports and what has made them my favorites. Maybe we should transition the rugby party aspect over as well. Shoot the hammer boot!
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Wayne Hill
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 9:23am |
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In my experience, there aren't many ruggers in the HG community.
When I mention it to most HG athletes, they blanch and say it sounds
too crazy for their tastes.
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 12:56pm |
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I gave up rugby now in my last year of school to concentrate on my throwing and oly lifting. I'm at the stage where my body is big enough to not like running. Loosehead prop truly is an awesome position, I had alot of fun last year trying to lift my opposite tighthead clear off the ground at scrum time, GREAT trap workout. I found this other cool thing, to bind onto your other number, grab his fat roll, not his jersey |
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 5:49pm |
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i played five years of rugby in the tough heart of america league, way back in the late 70s. i played wing forward, and led the topeka municpal team in scoring..my favorite was the long pass from the line out, and scored against cleveland old grey and utah dead goat using that play. i was voted dirtiest player in the league twice...since our scrum was so weak, i would disengage as soon as they won the ball, and i hit their scrum half about the time he bent over to pick up the ball.. needless to say, this interrupted the other team's backfield movements.. i also broke my face plate, and had all the ribs on the my sternum pulled out, not to mention cuts, lesions and bruises. i played against kansas university who had one of the players from the argentine team who crashed in the andes and were accused of cannibalism...this fellow came around on a movement and when i went to nail him, he nailed me first, punching me directly in the face. i went down in a heap, but some few minutes later, made a clean tackle on him, and proceeded to knee his head repeatedly, making sure he knew who i was. ah... rugby, a ruffians game played by gentlemen!!!! |
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Posted: 4/29/05 at 11:02pm |
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Rugby is legalised thuggery, nuff said.
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Posted: 4/30/05 at 4:54pm |
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Old Plaid, Hell, sounds like a regular game to me. In fact, it sounds a lot like half time in a regular game. But the party afterwards was always good. |
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Posted: 4/30/05 at 10:57pm |
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Yes, after party is always good, in a fully dehydrated state you sit around drinking beer, which does you goooood
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