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Originally posted by Sean Betz Sean Betz wrote:

I carry 4 shoes in my checked-in bag.  Hammer boots, light weight turf shoes, tanel-360's, and usually a deep cleat.  Hammer boots for the obvious.  Light weight turf-shoes for good hard ground and usually the stones, tanel 360's for the caber and depending on the terrain, the weights.  A deep cleat if it is pouring down rain and or bad footing.  I also carry a medium weight turf shoe in my carry on bag.  That shoe is what I wear the most.  If my checked in bag gets lost in transit, at least I have a multi-purpose shoe to get by with. 

As far as vibram's go, I think there are as many people that wear them because they are unique, as much as they enhance their performance.  I wouldn't want to be running through a field of caber holes with a pair of vibram's on.  Maybe I just have a vibram phobia.  I feel like someone is going to pinch me with their long weird toes in those things.

Sean, what medium type turf shoe are you using?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Betz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/19/11 at 11:20pm
I believe they are under armor brand.  I got both pairs of turf shoes in Scotland at JB Sports.  They have a good selection of turf shoes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Glover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/20/11 at 11:44am

So for a noob would I be best served with Tanel turf shoes or javelin shoes?

I've been wearing Montrail Hardrock trail running shoes and they've done alright but I figure I need something a little more sport specific.

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FWIW

I like to roll with a tanel turf lite on my left foot and well worn nike turf shoe on my right foot for open stone.  If throwing braemar, I just go ahead and wear them.  If it is particularly slick, I will go with a nike cleat on the left. 
i roll with the tanel turf lites for the weights and caber. 

sheaf, either the tanels, or my normal kicks which are trail runners.

for wob, i normally wear the tanels.  i have toyed with the idea of wearing my oly lifting shoes.  makes sense for body position and reducing lost energy.  for the few times I will deploy the spin for height, i will roll in the tanels.

the VFF are interesting in many ways.  but, for HG, I think the lack of traction is a no go for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RCrazyWolf4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/20/11 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by Silverback Silverback wrote:

Haha, your a funny little man.  Do you throw or lift or just type?  Post some video of anything you have done, won or set a record at please so I can refresh my mind of your greatness.  And with this great advice  your giving, how high have you thrown the wob in those shoes or any shoes anytime?  Just lay a number on us for a game we can look at and check.  No bs, no argue, just facts on YOU and what YOU have done.  Mine are easy, they are in the record book.  As in world record.  I just went and checked and did not see your name anyplace.    


Haw haw, "your" a funny little man too because you don't know the difference between your possessive and the contraction you're (short for you are), which I'm assuming is the version you intended.

Classic, avoid everything I have said so you can try to ridicule and attack in another way. IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER ME THEN WHO IS THE 'little weak dude' YOU ARE REFERRING TO IN YOUR PREVIOUS POST? Like I said, I'm not the important one nor am I the one claiming any greatness, that's all you. Is the rest of your life so devoid of happiness and accomplishment that this is what you have to cling to? Having a world record doesn't change the fact that you're a tool.

You really want to do this? In public? At this point you should probably just walk away. I know you won't because your ego won't let you. The only people who could save you from your idiocy are the ones who have the power to edit and modify this board. I'll write it one more time because either you didn't read it the first time or you couldn't read it: When you have to resort to derision and ridicule you have no argument and you become irrelevant. All you do on this board is take swipes at people, for no other reason than to make you feel better about you. Maybe next time you could bring something useful to the discussion other than your usual BS. (Please note how I used your and you're properly in the proper situation because if you pay attention you might learn something!)
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I am just an average Masters thrower so take this for what
it's worth - .02. I have 2 pairs of shoes in my bag. If
the conditions are dry I will wear a standard Nike soccer
turf shoe. Has good traction and let's me turn without
being too grippy (sp?). If conditions are wet, I have a
standard cleat and that keeps a good amount of crud from
building up on the bottom.
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Originally posted by phatmiked phatmiked wrote:

the VFF are interesting in many ways.  but, for HG, I think the lack of traction is a no go for me.

The Treks/Treksports have little lugs on the sole.

http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/Five-Fingers-KSO-T rek-Mens.htm

The difference in the two models is that the Treks have kangaroo leather over the fabric upper; the Treksports are have just the fabric (feel cooler, temperature-wise).

Just FYI.

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Except for hammer, I've been wearing Adidas turf shoes for everything for
the last twelve years or so. Don't overthink this stuff.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote C. Smith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/21/11 at 2:21am
Originally posted by Mr. Natural Mr. Natural wrote:

Except for hammer, I've been wearing Adidas turf shoes for everything for
the last twelve years or so. Don't overthink this stuff.


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They should put a patch of fur on the tops of those 5 fingers and then you
can pretend your a hobbit and not a thrower.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sammy68123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/21/11 at 5:52am

Originally posted by Soul Eater Soul Eater wrote:

They should put a patch of fur on the tops of those 5 fingers and then you can pretend your a hobbit and not a thrower.

I can BE a thrower while pretending to be a hobbit, thank you very much.  No reason the fur would interfere with throwing.

Now if YOU want to pretend to be both a hobbit and a thrower at the same time, you are certainly entitled to do so.  Or without the fur, you can just pretend to be a thrower.

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Originally posted by Soul Eater Soul Eater wrote:

They should put a patch of fur on the tops of those 5 fingers and then you
can pretend your a hobbit and not a thrower.

 

LMAO +1

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Originally posted by Mr. Natural Mr. Natural wrote:

Except for hammer, I've been wearing Adidas
turf shoes for everything for
the last twelve years or so. Don't overthink this stuff.

Thanks.
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Originally posted by Borges Borges wrote:

I can't imagine throwing barefoot or with VFF. However, for the
record, there is one VERY ELITE HG thrower who would sometimes
practice the HWFD barefoot. Now he did this to get a better feel for
the throw and only did it in practice (as he related the story to me)
so let's not get out of hand saying that there is no reason to ever try
throwing barefoot because there really may be reasons to try it in
certain circumstances. This guy is almost certainly the best
technician in the history of the sport and he found it useful in his
own development as a thrower.


No  chit?  Hm.  It'd suck to drop the weight on your foot though.

I started out wearing Nike football cleats. Man, were my feet tired at the end of the day. Then I got some high-top Nike artifical turf shoes. Loved them, but the soles keep coming unglued.   Now I have a pair of Adidas Turf Hogs and I love them.

However, I took the Nike artificial turf shoes to Ventura, because I knew we'd be throwing off of those plywood platforms with the astrocarpet.  Worked great.

Cleats are good in long, wet grass.

If you gotta have one thing, then keep it simple. Get some kind of turf shoe. Then go throw.
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I think I'll try the ADIDAS tuf shoe next year.  I have been using a running shoe and an old pair of high jump shoes for when its wet.
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Originally posted by Alan H Alan H wrote:

It'd suck to drop the weight on your foot though.

unless you've got steel toed boots on, I'm pretty sure it'd suck to drop the weight on your foot regardless of your choice in feet attire

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I'm goofy. I like my vibrams. Especially for travel because I can extend my leg just a LITTLE longer and my knees like that.

I've squatted in the silly things. Deadlifted too.

But I would never throw or do anything explosive in them. The feet slide around in them a bit. Unstable. Wastes energy. Feels wrong.

Tight shoes, hard ground, long throws.

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Adidas Turf Hogs +1

Easy on the feet and work on most surfaces. 

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I'm a serious newbie, but I have been happy with the New Balance
Minimus trail runners. I have only thrown in two games with pretty good
conditions, though.

I can highly recommend them as a good all-around training shoe. Anyone else have experience with these?
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I wear a pair of saucony turf spikes for everything but hammer and caber.
For those I wear an old pair of cleats. I like the spikes because they aren't too
grippy and were a whopping $20 on amazon, my cleats cost me a whole
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I purchased a pair of VFFs this summer and love them for everyday wear when I can, in the office, out and about or around the house. I prefer barefeet all the time, but it's difficult to achieve that in a paved environment. VFFs are as close as it gets without the "stepping on glass" and parasite dangers. Water shoes or mocs are a close second...basically anything with a flat, thin, flexible sole. Fore- or mid-foot strikes instead of heel-strikes, ftw.

That said, some environments don't lend themselves well to VFFs or mocs or barefeet. Any jobsite I vist requires boots(both legally and practically). Too many hazards to wear comfortable footwear there. Glad I'm the office monkey and dont have to spend 8 hrs a day in boots. Tongue


Working out, I use the VFFs, but sometimes wear an ankle brace because of prior injury. I used to run a lot when younger, turned my ankle dozens of times. (running heel-toe back thenLOL...) 
Throwing, I use adidas cleats. They give better grip than VFFs, IMO. And I do want a little extra support when throwing, just like the ankle wraps, the knee wraps, the elbow wraps and other neoprene supports and trusses I mummify myself with. Honestly, I dont trust that my left ankle will hold up as well in VFFs under those circumstances...yet. 

It's not as easy as one might think, learning to walk again after a lifetime of Frankensteining in heeled shoes... so I'm with Roger on the daily wear. "Barefoot"/minimalist has made my feet healthier and stronger since I began to abandon shoes, just like deadlifting has made my back stronger and healthier since I began to consistently do it.  But I wont attempt what for me is heavy weight without a belt.  Ditto for throwing without "support" shoes. The way I see it, barefoot is healthier, but not necessarily prudent in ALL circumstances, FOR ME. But elevated heels? I try to avoid it. 


Re: the paucity of research about bare vs. shod foot health, I agree with the following...."While there are no definitive injury studies that support barefoot over shod running, there is a growing body of literature that suggests we may need to change our thinking about running mechanics, footwear and how we treat the foot."  http://www.jfootankleres.com/content/4/S1/A3

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