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    Posted: 12/29/11 at 12:00am
 
Are there any throwers about that do no lift weights and have some decent numbers on board?
 
I know throwing weights hammers etc could be classed as lifting but im sure there must be some naturally very strong guys who dont need to lift and throw well.
 
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None that I know of, or have ever really heard of, with any decent numbers. 

There are lots of guys "who don't need to lift to throw well", but why would anyone purposefully not do something that is pretty much a guarantee to make them better?
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I don't understand the question.
 
I'll be lifting long after I'm done throwing.
 
Throwing just gives me a little more direct focus in my lifting. But regardless of how much of a dumpster fire the rest of my life turns into, it all goes away when my hands wrap around a bar.
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Not since us big, strong, muscleheads took their lunch money.
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Not even among the women throwers are there any I am aware of with good numbers that don't also spend some solid time lifting.
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Steve Santoli didn't really lift (or train, for that matter).  He hasn't thrown in a while (life got in the way), but put up pretty good numbers and held the Am WR in WOB (17' 6" standing).  If he had lifted and trained to his potential, he'd have been a great pro.
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Sean is dead on there about the bar therapy.  Long before I ever heard of throwing I got my fix in the gym.  Gets your mind right.  Why deny yourself the pleasure?  
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Like Santoli, Charlie Kaptur never did any serious gym training prior to breaking the am WOB record and putting up a bunch of other incredible numbers. On the other hand, he is a roofer and spent day after day tossing bales of shingles up onto rooftops. Strong is strong, doesn't much matter how you get there.
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Originally posted by BrittneyBoswell BrittneyBoswell wrote:

Not even among the women throwers are there any I am aware of with good numbers that don't also spend some solid time lifting.
 
Or even among those whose numbers are just okay <g>! 
 
I've been lifting for nearly 30 years and throwing for coming up on my 6th season.  Throwing is a lot about skill, technique, and timing, which becomes a great application for the strength I work on in lifting and a great mental counterbalance to lifting.
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Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

None that I know of, or have ever really heard of, with any decent numbers. 

There are lots of guys "who don't need to lift to throw well", but why would anyone purposefully not do something that is pretty much a guarantee to make them better?
+1.   You can say that now about any sport.
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