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Thanks Mike.  I should have known they were in your "mix"

How is your training going so far relative to all those lifting and throwing PRs you were hoping for back in January?  I am a bit behind schedule myself.  I kind of neglected to factor in the increased recovery time and slower progress involved when one is 40+ as opposed to 20+.  The 405 front squat (deep and 100% raw) is looking very unlikely this season, but 385 should happen by Saline.  We'll see what happens in the weight room over the next 6 weeks or so, and more importantly, what happens on the field at Alma, Saline, and Detroit.  I am hoping to learn how to throw in the period between Alma and Saline...

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Peter- 42 wob conventional standing PR of 19' (best in 4 years) and smacked 20' twice- it will fall this fall  , 15.3 56 wob - best in 5 years - hoping for 16' this year , best 42 throw ever 51.9,a 70' 28 throw,  matched sheaf PR last week- I would say the offseason was a success. After the Texas games in early June, it's back to the gym for 3.5 months - we go into a summer off-season - getting stronger for the MWC in late Sept.Fronts, zerchs, Timmermans, hi pulls , snatches , step ups , pushpress, Russian twists 'till I die or get stronger.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote C. Smith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5/22/07 at 9:48am

Originally posted by Peter Ingleton Peter Ingleton wrote:

Second, what do you feel are the advantages/benefits of doing Zercher's as opposed to front squats?  I am just curious as I have never done them before or even personally known anyone who has ever done them.  How long does it take your arms to get used to holding the bar like that?

Peter -

they are just entirely different than a front squat.  The core is worked so much more with a zercher vs. a front.  Like Baab said, everything gets hit, upper back, traps, etc....  I even used an 8ft. bar for the 605, just to add a little more core to it.  Walking it out and stabilizing that is good for what we do.

that being said, i do front squat also. 

If you've never done a Zercher, you really just need to do it to fully appreciate it.  Use a little bit of padding and your arm will never even notice it.......much

 



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Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

Peter - Craig does Zerchers 'cause he can't put a bar on his shoulders (personal issue from a cheerleader lifting incident years ago....I just can't go into it  too painful).... 

Geez....i thought we said we were never going to bring that up again?  I wasn't going to bring up trying to lift you and you weren't going to bringing up your fetish of wearing cheerleader outfits.  It's like i don't even know you anymore Mike...

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Craig,Craig,Craig...no,no,no....I said I like to GET inside cheerleader uniforms....not wear them......you're the one always braggin' about your pushpress abilities...and I was braggin' about being able to do the splits both ways and...well....one thing led to another...still got that bald spot on your head?....I said I was sorry. ....really.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MJurkoic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5/22/07 at 10:57am

Mike, can you explain what a Timmerman is?

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BIGMATT- It's like a jumping goodmorning squat...bar on shoulders , compacting yourself as far down as possible and dynamically exploding up and out , landing and immediately rebounding up - I do sets of 5 - start really light(the bar) to get used to it.All about speed and bounce - lots of us are really strong, but need really explosive more . You WILL throw wob higher if you have a steady diet of these in your program. 
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Thank you, Mike. I wll definitely try them out.
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So are Zerchers a bigger bang for your buck than overheads?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Silverback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5/23/07 at 4:45am

Zerk is a cross of front and deads.  More haunch than fronts.  And of course that crazy holding the thing with the arms, I don't feel the weight crushing them kind of thing.  I have not seen anyone come close, I mean neighborhood even with C on this.  And trust me I have been in the dungeon and tried everything to get in that area.  Nope. 

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Craig, looked real good bro. Glad you finally nailed it. Keep goin now! 700 soon!

 

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Myles - thanks brother.  He's right, it's really something you've just gotta do to really understand.

Buddy - thanks!  You get that 700 shirt press yet?

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Not yet Craig. Did a real nice 665 though. Im creapin on it......
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