Nasgaweb Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home » Nasgaweb Forums » Training
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Another training question
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Database

scottishheavyphotographs.com Old Celt Equipment

Another training question
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Pingleton View Drop Down
Postaholic
Postaholic

Highland Games' virtually straight legs

Joined: 11/28/06
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 2747 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pingleton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 9/04/08 at 4:39am
Originally posted by Peter Ingleton Peter Ingleton wrote:

 
Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

I guess military press to me means behind the neck shoulder press - which is good for body builders - but not tossers.

Hey Mike, even the East Germans used to include strict behind neck presses in their programs during the first few months of the off-season, after benching of course.  But in general you are obviously correct, especially with respect to them being a primary movement.  I personally like the dumbell version, when I bother to include them.

Push presses are a very different lift than a strict military press, and a very useful lift for throwers.  Push presses (or jerks) done behind the neck are even better, if your shoulders can handle them, or you are willing to do a bunch of singles.  More power and a better line than from the front, but potentially very hard on the shoulders.  Caution advised. 

Video of Reese Hoffa doing seated Behind Neck Presses, narrated by his coach, Don Babbit.  I have no idea what time of year this was, what he did before this, or how often he includes some type of shoulder press in his workouts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_AQlxV9SI&feature=relat ed

 

We do not stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.



    - George Bernard Shaw
Back to Top
throwing_josh View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 2/13/07
Status: Offline
Points: 39 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote throwing_josh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 9/10/08 at 8:10am

Another question...

Does it overly matter what squat we're doing?  It seems front squat is preferred for throwers over the back squat.  I've found to favor the zercher squat over the other two.  Since we're technically strengthening the same muscle groups, is it feasible to spend more time on one type of squat than another?
Back to Top
Pingleton View Drop Down
Postaholic
Postaholic

Highland Games' virtually straight legs

Joined: 11/28/06
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 2747 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pingleton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 9/10/08 at 8:14am

From the Articles section:

http://www.nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=618 6&PN=1

And one that probably should be there:

http://www.nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=391 7&KW=front+squat

You might find this interesting too:

http://www.nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=596 0&KW=front+squat

 

We do not stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.



    - George Bernard Shaw
Back to Top
Pingleton View Drop Down
Postaholic
Postaholic

Highland Games' virtually straight legs

Joined: 11/28/06
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 2747 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pingleton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 9/12/08 at 12:13pm

This is the final segment of the Werner Gunthor training tape (the first three segments were posted above).  This one includes footage of Gunthor doing overheads with the shot and well as underhand heaves (he was probably among the top 3 athletes in the world at both of these).  

The video also includes footage of him performing the Continuous Clean and Press, which he noted in his interview in the "Remarks of Shot Put Champions" article (posted in the Articles section).  I know a few people were a bit uncertain exactly how that lift was performed. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frFVhwIy_PU&feature=relat ed

 

We do not stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.



    - George Bernard Shaw
Back to Top
Pingleton View Drop Down
Postaholic
Postaholic

Highland Games' virtually straight legs

Joined: 11/28/06
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 2747 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pingleton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/02/08 at 3:42am

I have posted a written translation of the commentary heard on the Guntor training videos in the Articles Forum, along with each of the video segments.  This should significantly increase the usefulness of these videos for those who do not understand French.

 

We do not stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.



    - George Bernard Shaw
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 10.11
Copyright ©2001-2012 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.069 seconds.