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Topic: Newbie distress signal....
Posted By: jimmymac
Subject: Newbie distress signal....
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 5:07am

 

I am getting ready for my first highland games.  It is on June 11th in the town I grew up in - Kansas City.   The problem is I now live in Portland, Oregon where it rains a lot.  We are just now drying out a bit and I hope to have time to practice.  The only implement I have is a 56 pounder, I have a hammer on the way.

 

With the 56 for height (over-the-bar) I am having some trouble.  Actually getting it over the bar is the problem.  I am standing under the bar and getting the height but I hit the bar all the time.  Any ideas what I may be doing wrong?

 

The 56 for distance – I am not sure I can get the technique down on this one before June 11th.  I can throw the weight further with one spin than I can with 3.  I plan to keep practicing with 3 spins but I was wondering if it would it be a big deal to just throw with one spin?

 

I look forward to hearing any advice on these questions or any tips on preparing for and what to expect at my first contest.

 

Anyway, I am looking forward to good bbq and some sunny weather in old K.C.

 

Cheers,

jim



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Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 5:21am

Jim,

Good to here from someone in the same place that I man in. I will be there in KC throwing in the C class. So if you don't get it down that well don't stress too much.

Try these two post that someone had put up earlier. They helped me a bunch ( I mean like from 10' to 20')

http://p076.ezboard.com/fasaafrm7.showMessage?topicID=5.topic - http://p076.ezboard.com/fasaafrm7.showMessage?topicID=5.topi c

http://p076.ezboard.com/fasaafrm7.showMessage?topicID=2.topic - http://p076.ezboard.com/fasaafrm7.showMessage?topicID=2.topi c

One is for the 28# and one is about 56# weight for distance.

As far as the Weight over bar I'm not haveing much luck with that either. But I'm sure some one will chime in. Good luck on your training, and I will see you in KC in June.

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: AncientOne
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 5:29am

Jim-

It seems odd that you only have a 56, but you have a bar... huh?

Anyway, try this for height:

1) take a half-step out from under the bar, try the throw;
Did you clear? [Yes/No] If yes, go to 3; if no go to 2;

2) take another half-step out from under the bar, try the throw;
Did you clear? [Yes/No] If yes, go to 3; if no repeat 2;

3) raise bar and go to 1 <or> end process.

Try this for distance:

1) get really good at the single spin,

2) plan to watch and learn from the guys in your group at KC.

Good luck in your training,

-SillyLightweight 



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Winners are remarkably adept at figuring out what's required to win.


Posted By: jlmreddog
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 5:34am

First off, R E L A X, it's supposed to be fun.

On the WOB try to think about driving up with your legs and not using so much back. When you finish your pull you should be in a slight c, not leaning way back.

On the 56 for distance there is nothing wrong with throwing with one spin. Some knowledgeable folks throwing with one spin for an entire year before adding the second turn.



Posted By: BillB
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 5:50am
Dude,3 spins?I've been throwing for 2 years and can't stay in the box consistantlyon a double spin.If you throw farther with one spin,use one spin.Style points are not given just measurements.Relax and have a good time above all else.There will be plenty of people there that will help\coach you all day.Watch and learn.Distance comes with time.If this is your first Games,you will leave the field with all new PR's for each event.Good luck and have fun.

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Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 6:01am

Good thought Bill,

I never thought about the "PR" on every event!!!

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: jimmymac
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 12:17pm

Thanks for your help guys.  I am looking forward to a good time, there seems to be alot of cool people doing the games.

The  AncientOne was wondering about my 56 lb weight:
I have a track and field weight that I can add a links to and change it from wfd to wob.

Thanks again,

jim



Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 1:06pm

Jim,

Its all about the fun. We will have fun throwing together even if it 20' backwards!!!

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: AncientOne
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 4:14pm

No,no-

I'm clear on how to switch a 56 from distance to height or whatever, it was the fact that you, a newbie, have a bar - that was unusual.

I've known many guys who've collected equipment to throw and yet after years don't have a bar to throw at. You've got a bar, that's good.

Good luck in your training,

-AncientOne



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Winners are remarkably adept at figuring out what's required to win.


Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 4:20pm

Ancient One,

Most of us have bars! They just get really pi$$ed off when you throw a 56# weight in there!!!!

Sorry I had too!

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: Ken Farnsworth
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 5:43pm

I live in Longview, Wa  about forty-fifty minutes north of you.  I am having a practice This Sunday May 29.  If you want to come up and join in we will be glad to try to help you some.

Email me at mailto:kenfarnsworth@earthlink.net - kenfarnsworth@earthlink.net for details etc...



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That'll leave a mark


Posted By: Torc
Date Posted: 5/25/05 at 6:33pm
All my bar wants you to throw back is pints


Posted By: jimmymac
Date Posted: 5/26/05 at 6:21am
Ken - That would be great to practice with your group.  I will drop you an e-mail. 


Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 5/27/05 at 6:25pm
I'm fairly new at throwing, but I've worked up to a double spin with the light weight, though I have trouble with the heavy.  Maybe because my heavy practice weight is like *38* pounds! 

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Hey, I'm a Burchett too!


Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 5/28/05 at 2:56am
That is WAY too heavy.  Such a big difference makes it a different event.

-Wayne


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"We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby


Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 5/28/05 at 8:02pm

Yeah, but it's what I could get for free leftover from the Burchett master practice field...    One of these days I'll get some better weights.  I just wish I lived closer to other Highland games athletes...

I always wanna spell it athuleete... 



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Hey, I'm a Burchett too!


Posted By: big MAC
Date Posted: 5/28/05 at 8:33pm
Get a hacksaw and cut some weight off the 38lber. It might take half a day, but it will build character

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Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 5/29/05 at 5:20pm

And maybe some biceps! 

I'll see what I can do about that... 



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Hey, I'm a Burchett too!


Posted By: big MAC
Date Posted: 5/29/05 at 7:09pm
And as we all know, the biceps will make you throw really, really, really far!

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Posted By: Torc
Date Posted: 5/31/05 at 6:20pm

 

 I use a combination of biceps and Sheperds prayer. Alan Sheperd that is. ( Please Lord don't let me screw this up.)



Posted By: Celtic-Bull
Date Posted: 5/31/05 at 8:10pm

WOB that is one thing(of many) that I'm not all that good at myself but one tip that I have that helped me get a p/r is when I let it go I jump nothing in rules say your feet can't leave the ground...plus spining with that thing isn't in the cards for Me i have a better chance of flying .I also only do one maybe to prep swing with it try and save all my strangth for get my hand over my head before I let go..but try the jump thing it might help

-Tim "Big Pull"



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MacGregor Despite Them!


Posted By: jimmymac
Date Posted: 6/01/05 at 9:52am

I had a good training session with Ken.  At least now I know which end of the caber is up.

I am looking forward to KC and meeting Terry and anyone else heading there.

 



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Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 6/01/05 at 6:57pm

Its going to be a blast!!!! Even if I threw today and cant get it out of the box much less down the field!

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: Edward
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 3:04am

Terry,

I think your holding back.  You plan on handing all of us our arse next Saturday.

Ed



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Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 8:15am

Nope I will be there to pick up the last place spot so no one wlse has too!

I do need to get a new training partner though! My 6 year old son is my throwing partner. And his only advise is "Its too hot and its too heavey, lets go swimming!"

 

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: jimmymac
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 9:11am

Terry -

Sounds like good advice.

Are you going to have your kid out there in KC?  I will have my soon to be 4 year old out there.

I am trying to talk him into wearing a kilt (older cousin's skirt).



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May the Risen Lord grant that the strength of his life, peace and freedom be experienced everywhere. - B16


Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 10:37am

Already got his kilt! He will be wearing it with pride!!! I purchased him a mens small Sportkilt. It fits him great.

I hope to have a picture of him on here maybe this week end.

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: Edward
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 10:48am
My boys will be there, including the recently turned 4 year old.

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Ed


Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 11:59am

Ed is that hand going to help the rest of out a little?

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 12:03pm

Jim,

My son is wanting to do the kid games. He might be POed when he find out they dont have a wt for distance.

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: jimmymac
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 12:52pm

Sounds like the apple does not fall far from the tree.  Mens small at 6 years old, I hope I don't have to throw against him. 

That is great you, Ed and I have kids around the same age, now I know my son Coulter will have a blast. 



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May the Risen Lord grant that the strength of his life, peace and freedom be experienced everywhere. - B16


Posted By: Edward
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 4:20pm

Terry,

I'll throw on a raw flesh if that's what it takes.  I opened my yap and folks'll be there to watch you put on a clinic.  So I plan on nothing but PRs.

Of course, the best laid plans of mice and men...



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Ed


Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 6/02/05 at 5:24pm

My little one will show up in her kilt too! Though at 14 months, I have to improvise a bit for her...  So cute though! 

She looks forward to kicking my butt in throwing when she gets to weighing more than the weights... 



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Hey, I'm a Burchett too!



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