Q&A Olympic lifting for the athlete
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Topic: Q&A Olympic lifting for the athlete
Posted By: MAT$O
Subject: Q&A Olympic lifting for the athlete
Date Posted: 12/13/11 at 2:07am
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October 13, 2011
10*11*11 Q&A Olympic Lifting for the athlete.
Despite their popularity among the athletes, in you opinion, do you think the oly movements carry over?
I enjoy the oly movements because I think they're fun, but I have
specifically left them out of my off season training So I can focus on
other aspects such as conditioning, hypertrophy, speed, and strength. I
personally don't find they carry over as much as throwers put emphasis
on them because I throw "OK" numbers but have pretty pathetic oly
movement numbers in comparison.
Is it a coincidence the top throwers have incredible Olympic lifting
numbers because they are just that powerful and explosive ( read
huge/fast/deads/squats/ohps) or do you feel they are the top
throwers specifically because of the movements, all technique aside obv.
Thoughts?
-JSully
Do I think the Olympic movements carry over for athletics. This is not
as easy as a yes or no answer, but so we can move on the short answer is
yes. The Olympic movements the snatch and the clean are tow movements
where the full body is being used to generate force through the ground
on two legs. This type of explosive power is seen in almost every
sport. It is also an issue of body awareness and getting muscle to fire
in a specific order, both of these things are also incredibly important
in sports. For the athlete not competing in an weightlifting
competition I do not see the benefit for focusing on the second half of
the movement. The ability to drop under weight and catch it is specific
to weightlifting. I personally like doing a variety of full lifts and
pulls from the floor and hip. This is for no other reason than my clean
has always been a good indicator of where I am speed
and flexibility wise.
Remember training is not a job or any of us. (chances that is you are a
professional athlete ie. making your full living off of your respected
sport, you are not reading my blog.) So it needs to be something you
enjoy and are passionate about. So "doing them because you think
they're fun" is a prefect reason to do them. You say that you are
focusing your off season around conditioning, hypertrophy, speed, and
strength. Personally the Olympic movements fulfill all of the criteria
that you are trying to accomplish as an athlete. This is the exact
reason so many Crossfit workouts use the clean or snatch. It recruits a
ton of muscle activity and can be done relativity light weight for
great cardio. For the athlete I would rather see someone doing high rep
sets of pulls then going to run 2 miles.
I don't think it is a coincidence that the top throwers have pretty good
Olympic numbers. Be careful saying things like incredible numbers
because that is not true. There are no guys who's main focus is
throwing that can walk out on the platform at a weightlifting meet and
even compete with top weightlifters. A 2x body weight clean and jerk is
pretty common for top weightlifters, I am willing to bet there are no
throwers that are pulling that off.
The top throwers are good at Olympic lifting cause they have been doing
it for 10 years as well as training hard. Most of the top guys spent
time playing sports in college and most throwing programs spend a lot of
time doing the Olympic lifts. So they also spend 4-5 days a week
throwing. One is not necessarily going to make you better at the other.
If you are a competent thrower and you technique is good then being
faster and stronger is going to benefit you. The Olympic movements make
you faster and stronger.
You can't say technique aside especially when dealing with Olympic
lifting and throwing. These two things require technique over absolute
strength so much that if you can make big jumps just focusing on
technique. It is all about being efficient with the strength that you
have.
-Matt
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