Sheaf Secrets
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Topic: Sheaf Secrets
Posted By: KiltBill
Subject: Sheaf Secrets
Date Posted: 4/16/15 at 3:25pm
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Was wandering what you think helps your sheaf? I have heard heavy Deadlifts, overweight bags. What have you found that helped you add height to your sheaf. ------------- Remember Kay Cummings, Father of the Highland Games in the Southeast and my friend. Lets Go Run With The Big Dogs! |
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 4/16/15 at 7:38pm
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Not throwing it until competition. Practicing sheaf very overated(+its a stupid event that should be banned/any games I throw or AD bans the sheaf and either throws a second stone or second hammer) ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: grasshopper
Date Posted: 4/16/15 at 7:46pm
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I would say snatch. It feels more like a snatch than anything else for me. ------------- "Breathe deeply. Refuse to be weak. Refuse to be sick. Refuse to die. Think strong and you will be." -The Mighty Atom (Yoselle Greenstein) |
Posted By: Hapy
Date Posted: 4/16/15 at 8:33pm
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There are two things I think about when throwing sheaf - the amount of rotational power I am putting on the bag, and then the amount of verticality I put on it. Some guys are extremely strong on the rotational end of things - Harrison Bailey comes to my mind in particular - he would stand further away from the bar than the height and launch it like a rocket - still making 34' with the 20b bag. Others have tremendous vertical pop - Don Stewart for example. He stands almost right under the bar, and just launches it virtually straight up into the air. So - knowing how your style is, you may want to work on different aspects here. For me to throw the highest, I have to really remind myself to get vertical - Tony's recommendation of snatch seems pretty close to what I would say as well. But if your style dictates that you are a rotational "torque" thrower, then maybe things like plate twists, medicine ball throws or overweight hammer rotations might be your best bet. I definitely would not recommend throwing an overweight sheaf - this will mess with your timing/aim (at least it would with mine, which is always suspect for me anyhow). Also, YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH HEAVY DEADS, go get some! ------------- Real Men Wear Purple Tinky Winky Throw Far! http://www.facebook.com/CVTSA" rel="nofollow - Central Vermont Strength Association |
Posted By: getyoukilt
Date Posted: 4/17/15 at 5:19am
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Hapy's breakdown is spot on. For rotation I like hammer winds, alternating sides. Also low cables, mimicking the pulls for various events. For vertical, its hard to beat hang cleans, I don't worry too much about the form, just the pull. As I get older , I seem to get better results from trying to move weight faster rather than heavier. Get with me at Ormond, and I will show you everything I know about the sheaf. ........OK .....I will show you the two things I know about the sheaf........and they may be the same thing. ------------- " " - Harpo Marx |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 4/17/15 at 7:47am
^^ I love this post. That said, most of us are likely strong enough to throw the sheaf really high, so make sure the technique side of it is buttoned up. |
Hapy wrote:Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 4/17/15 at 11:09am
Damn right, sheaf always improves with more snatch. ------------- Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die" |
Posted By: Sean
Date Posted: 4/17/15 at 2:37pm
| Life improves with more snatch. |
Posted By: TheJeff696
Date Posted: 4/17/15 at 9:17pm
------------- Jeff Kaste "I think there's a Squatch in these woods..." |
Posted By: Braidy Miller
Date Posted: 4/26/15 at 2:36pm
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It's about technique and timing just like all the other events so you need to practice. I usually throw an 18lb bag. ( a lot ) With that said, I have found when my power snatch and deadlifts are up, I throw higher. |