wow...who can do this?
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Topic: wow...who can do this?
Posted By: will barron
Subject: wow...who can do this?
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 1:14am
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I was reading on AGM's hsitory section of the games about the 56 for distance. The old distances were alot shorter than the modern throws of over 40' BUT, the world record for the "standing throw" |
was over 27'! The only person who immediately comes to mind with this swinging power is Dave Brown. Or am I totally off track and this is much easier than I think? Hold on, I'm gonna go try for myself...Replies:
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 1:59am
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Wisconsin last year, i believe Parman went 29' irish fling style. Standing, feet planted, swing between legs, throw forward. I think you should try it at Richmond. That's really the only way to prove you've got some power in that gut!!! -C |
Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 2:18am
I will if you will...
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Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 2:18am
| oh wait...no I won't |
Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 2:26am
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I'm not sure where you found that record number, but it's mentioned in this description (linked on AGM's site): http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_21/outXXI 01/outXXI01j.pdf This document describes the various techniques that were used with the 56. It sounds like the standing throw was done with 2 hands, in a Scottish hammer style of motion. -Wayne ------------- "We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby |
Posted By: JWC III
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 4:17am
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I couldn't access that document, I was wanting to read it, any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? In KC we have an old style 56 and we played with that standing Irish throw, pure power! I recall Al Myers hitting mid 20's, but can't recall exactly what he hit. ------------- Thom Van Vleck |
Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 4:29am
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Oops, I see what happened. For some reason, a space appeared in
the URL (between outXXI and 01). Ditch the space and you should
get there. There's all kinds of interesting tidbits in there. -Wayne ------------- "We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby |
Posted By: jlmreddog
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 7:20am
| Lowther and I did this last year in practice, he was out over 28' and I was...well less ~24. |
Posted By: thor35
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 10:25am
| Dave Brown..... Well over 30' @ the Livermore CA games in May. Of this was to look easy. Oh us poor mortals |
Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 11:31am
| so...why are so many people doing this in competition? |
Posted By: dave brown
Date Posted: 10/06/04 at 2:55pm
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in competition? The livermore games was a warmup adjacent to the trig - the games field was rodeo track and not very prone to spinning - so (and I believe most the pro's attempted) we warmed up with a standing - then I threw the first two comp throws with a single turn (mainly from being nervous about an ankle injury the year before). The only other area I've seen this done is in training, just to mix things up... my personal PR in training is around 34 feet from a stand... which nears my standing 16# open stone
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Posted By: Coach Mac
Date Posted: 10/07/04 at 4:42am
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so...why are so many people doing this in
competition? Young Will....because they CAN This is just part
of breaking down the throw and it develops SPECIFIC STRENGTH....try (build up to this) winding a pvc hammer with progressively heavier weight...we have had up to 80 + pounds and talk about "circular" strength...I've seen pic's of Indian Clubs weighing over 100-lbs. I'm thinking of sending one to Mike Smith for Xmas...now where did I put that checkbook  Have a GREAT Day! mac~------------- Have a GREAT Day ! Rob " Coach Mac " Mac Kay |
Posted By: Ali.G
Date Posted: 10/07/04 at 10:23am
You know Bob in India they have guys that lift 56ers with their knobs, painfull stuff but I don`t think it will take of at Highland Games just yet maybe after a few beers. LOL.
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Posted By: Todd Bell
Date Posted: 10/07/04 at 11:54am
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Hey Craig, Was the throw that Parman did with one hand or two?? |
Posted By: john gallagher
Date Posted: 10/07/04 at 1:34pm
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I am seeing a difference in styles with what is being discussed. The one James Parman did was called the Irish Fling. That is done with your toes on a line facing your direction of throw. You may not have any approach or go beyond that line. You take one hand only and get as many swings between your legs as you want. You may not swing outside your legs. You then release the weight forward from between your legs while you have to stay planted on the ground behind the line. The measurement is made from the line to the mark the wt made in the ground. We contest this event as a challenge event at the Wisconsin Games. I think James went around 28' last year. Darius Slovic won this year at around 27'. I have done around 25'. It is pure power and levers. The one Dave Brown did is one turn of the two turn approach in the actual highland games throw for distance. It would look like the spinning weight for height but done for distance rather than height. That is the difference between the two styles I am reading on these posts. ------------- MSUM Throws Coach 4 NCAA National Champions 50 NCAA All-Americans 2001 & 2002 World Stone Put Champion |
Posted By: john gallagher
Date Posted: 10/07/04 at 1:36pm
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At least I think I am correct on the Dave Brown was talking about. Maybe I am wrong. ------------- MSUM Throws Coach 4 NCAA National Champions 50 NCAA All-Americans 2001 & 2002 World Stone Put Champion |
Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 10/09/04 at 7:46am
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I was at West Coast Dave's house a few years back when he cracked off a one-spin 30 footer with the 56 while eating a carrot (which he was holding in his other hand at the time of the throw) and talking through the whole throw. Freaky Retard Strength Rules!!!! ------------- Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die" |