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Posted By: CHAD
Subject: Question...
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 6:48am
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And I may get killed for this one, BUT, what is with the kilts that are made for the female athletes? I mean, aren't they a little short for you guys? I would think that the uniform should be the same for ALL athletes regardless of gender. My gal will be competing for the fist time on the 13th. When she got her kilt in the mail, oh lordy! She put it on and said that she looked slutty. I said, "I know. I like it Keep it on." But I did have to acknowledge her point. I mean, I don't think the spectators would be able to hold down their lunches if they were to see any more of my legs than are already exposed. Imagine if I were dressed like a Catholic school girl. Is there any one who has found this? Does anyone have any pull with the apparel powers-that-be? Just in the interest of equity. |
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Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 6:53am
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If I had any pull with the powers that be then the women's kilts would be shorter still. Can you say "muff cover"? ------------- Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die" |
Posted By: littleone
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 7:02am
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Oh my! Well, if your lady was measured for her kilt with the understanding that it needed to be alittle longer, that would have been great. There arent really any special kilts for women as far as sports kilts that I know of. Mine is made short because my mentors, Lady Ventress and Lady Rathbun, highly suggested it be made shorter because it was less material to have to hike for WOB. My kilt was made by a kilt maker here in Tulsa. Ladies Kilts, (not sports kilts) are made to the length of mid-calf and not practical for throwing. You may have to send it back and have it re-made if it wasnt measured correctly from the hip to the knee. You wont get killed Josh, you are just stating your thoughts and asking a question! Powers that be.............silly man............you first! (LOL!)
------------- "Lead, Follow or get the Hell outta my way!" |
Posted By: BillB
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 7:22am
Cherie,you are the perfect spokeswoman for the "mini-kilt". ------------- Vae Victus |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 7:38am
Bill - absolutely! Ed and I don't drive 9 hours to Tulsa just to throw weights...........
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Posted By: nbafo
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 7:41am
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>>>"I know. I like it. Keep it on."
silly man. you should have said: "I know. I like it. Take it off." 
I was afraid of how short the women's Sportkilts were--even with shorts underneath, so I ordered myself a men's and then took in the waist a few inches and sewed down the top few inches of pleat to look a bit more traditional. (she throws! she sews!) I love the look of a traditional kilt, but like how light the Sportkilts are... ------------- Nancy Baker Fowler |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 7:55am
| No. It was just fine with it on. |
Posted By: BillB
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 7:58am
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Mike,I'm a married man,but just cause I'm on a diet doesn't mean I can't look at the menu.I bet Cherie kicks me in the butt next time she sees me. ------------- Vae Victus |
Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 8:07am
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It doesn't matter where you get your appetite, as long as you eat at home. ------------- Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die" |
Posted By: jeffloosle
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 8:11am
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Bill, You bet. . . OR, YOU HOPE!!! I am betting you are hoping!!!! |
BillB wrote:Posted By: McSanta
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 8:17am
Thanks for the visuals seared into my brain, but trying to imagine you with pony tails ain't doing it for me! ------------- Mark McVey "The work of science is to substitute facts for appearances and demonstrations for impressions." -John Ruskin |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 8:35am
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Mcsanta, AWWW. And I was gonna let you carry my books home from school... |
Posted By: jimmymac
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 8:51am
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Carlos, I told you when I met you on Sunday I found your posts enlightening. I stand by that, o wise one. jim ------------- May the Risen Lord grant that the strength of his life, peace and freedom be experienced everywhere. - B16 |
Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 9:25am
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Now I can finally put a name with the face. Good meeting you too. ------------- Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die" |
Posted By: BillB
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 10:32am
Eat at home,my wife loved that one! ------------- Vae Victus |
Posted By: littleone
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 10:44am
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I am humbly honored that you fellas like the walk away affect! (I am blushing!) Well, Bill ....... I know that your butt is safey in Keisha's hands, but I bet she would gladly let me attempt to kick your butt! Imagine a midget on a milk crate..... swing and a miss!! heeheehee! Leaving it on is the tease.... Who? Me? Be a tease? Nah! Not little ole me! Baab, what is you and Ed's schedule like this year? Carlos, I some how dont know if "Hot pants" come in plaid! But this BUTT isnt brave enough for that......and wouldnt scare off folks just to try it! I have my pride ya know! Have a great night ya'll~ Kilt Queen
------------- "Lead, Follow or get the Hell outta my way!" |
Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 11:00am
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Back to the original subject, yeah, I think the kilts ordered from SportKilt are a little short, so I got two extra inches on mine... And their shirts are DANG small! I ordered my kilt in January, and they had free shirts with women's kilts, so I got an XL. It's more like a medium, so I don't wear it... Except at home... Anyway, the SportKilts might be fine for short women, but for those of us who are tall, it doesn't work so well! I like my kilt to be slightly below mid-thigh so there's not so much extra fabric, but any shorter than that is a little obscene for me... ------------- Hey, I'm a Burchett too! |
Posted By: The Queen
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 11:11am
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Wise words Carlos. IMHO, This is what makes a marriage last. Josh, there are no hard and fast rules for length on a ladies' kilts. Like Cherie said, traditional ladies' kilts were actually "kilted skirts". Typically Tea length (below the knee), but I have seen some that were floor length. Obviously these are not conducive to athletic pursuits. I am curious where your gal purchased her kilt from. The kilt dealers I frequent (Neokilt and Sportkilt) offer both "standard kilts" and "mini kilts" for ladies. And most traditional kilt vendors who offer custom made kilts (Geoffrey Tailor for example) leave it to you to decide the length of your kilt (for ladies). It is unfortunate that your gal did not like the length of her kilt at first, but I'm sure once she gets some compliments about how she looks it it, she'll begin to love it. In the Interest of Equity I say this. Woman have the power and intelligence to choose what length of kilt works for them. Ladies who have it can choose to flaunt it. Men should adhere to the traditional "to the break of the knee" length. I think the majority of athletes and spectators alike are happy and satisfied with this situation. And frankly anything that does not hang below the kilt, does not interest me.
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Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 11:22am
| She got hers a sport kilt. Really well made. My gal's 6"1' so that may have something to do with the extreme shotness. I was just kinda wondering where the demand for shorter kilts was coming from. |
Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 11:26am
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I'm nearly six feet tall, so I'll bet that's why it seems so short... 18 inches of fabric just isn't much on a tall person! ------------- Hey, I'm a Burchett too! |
Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 11:31am
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OK I'll ask the real Question???? Where is this game that she is throwing at????? Terry Lawson ------------- “The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!” |
Posted By: nbafo
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 12:19pm
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I'm only 5'7" on a good day and 18" was too short for me and these old legs...sportkilt even has a "mini" version that is even shorter--14"...I think it might actually be demand from the goth community?...school-girl punk look is popular, I guess...
(And Josh, sorry if I offended with my comment before--it just reminded me of a favorite quote from a silly novel--the leading man says about his gf's new outfit: "Nice dress. Take it off." ) ------------- Nancy Baker Fowler |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 1:09pm
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She wouldn't want me to tell where she's throwing. She's all leg (37 inch inseam). Hopefully that will help her leverages for throwing. Just looks a little funny doing it in a short skirt. Offended? Me? Never. |
Posted By: Louis Cypher
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 1:55pm
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Mini Kilt's Vs. mini caber's ------------- I'm the only hell (Mama ever Raised). George Jones & Johnny Paycheck |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 2:11pm
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Hmmm... Josh. Should be an interesting Games. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: littleone
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 2:28pm
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From one end of the heigth specturm to the other!! The very tall ladies to the very short ladies! Amen Queen! Amen! You men are the only ones lookin'! Hugs to you all! Rainbow Bright ------------- "Lead, Follow or get the Hell outta my way!" |
Posted By: bobcat
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 4:18pm
Women's kilts are way to short especially since most women ordering them aren't size 2s. Height really doesn't matter at all, I'm 5'4" and my kilt is way to short, just look at any pictures from shammies and its a nuisance to make sure its pulled down all day.
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Posted By: Sarah Moore
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 5:13pm
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I'm so happy I was a seamstress in a former life and don't have to deal with this problem. I make my own. If anything, mine's a little too long. ------------- If you want your dreams to come true, don't oversleep. Yiddish proverb |
Posted By: Celtic-Bull
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 5:17pm
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*from the outside looking in* Bob what you doing this weekend???? Oh I read online about these really hot women "lifting big things" in mini skirt!! *inside looking out* Kelly why do those guy keep tossing 20's on the field.. It's great it be a scot! ------------- MacGregor Despite Them! |
Posted By: littleone
Date Posted: 5/02/06 at 6:19pm
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Hey Kori! good to hear from you! About the only way to fix the problem of the length of the kilt is to make sure that when you get measured that you add a bit. The Sports kilt guys and Utlity kilt guys if they are at a games, they measure you on the spot and just tell the what you are needing it for. I know that there are vendors out there who have kilts and can order kilts for you and they also measure you there. I still have the same kilt I started with in hmmmmmmmm I think '98 or '99. I dont wear it to all Scottish functions though because it is too short for those types of events. I want to order a floor length, (hostess kilted skirt) just for Scottish gatherings and such. But ya know, considering the styles that I have seen we fit right in. You know, (sorry but what I am going to say might offend somebody, please dont send me bad emails!) I look at things this way: 2) if you guys havent already seen what a gal looks like, you need to get out more.( had to stop and think about how to word that one!) 3) if it what I have bothers you, dont look! Now with that said you guys and gals have a great day! The Silly One
------------- "Lead, Follow or get the Hell outta my way!" |
Posted By: Jeff Ingram
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 7:06am
| This thread is worthless without pictures. |
Posted By: tiger
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 12:37pm
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I got my kilt from Thistle and Clover in St. Louis. It fits great! It maybe a little short but I got nice legs and my fiance likes it. Like Cherie says it's nice to here the compliments. There's nothing wrong in looking strong and sexy at the same time. ------------- Let the games begin!!! |
Posted By: Louis Cypher
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 1:43pm
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You women just don't know what you do to men, cover your selves up. Because when you die and go to heaven Saint finger is going to shake his... I mean Saint Peter is going to shake his finger at you. ------------- I'm the only hell (Mama ever Raised). George Jones & Johnny Paycheck |
Posted By: tiger
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 2:36pm
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We know what we do, that's why we have so much fun!!!!! ------------- Let the games begin!!! |
Posted By: littleone
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 3:46pm
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Yep! "We know what we do, that's why we have soo much fun!" It is nice to hear the compliments too! I personally, love the banter! St. Finger..............I gotta remember that one!! heeeheeeheee! C
------------- "Lead, Follow or get the Hell outta my way!" |
Posted By: BillB
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 4:48pm
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Strong and sexy,yeah baby!Jen,you are another kilted kitten. ------------- Vae Victus |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 5:38pm
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I'm reasonably certain that the problem of females ordering male kilts is in the way it's being measured and the relative anatomic differences between the male & female pelvis. The distance between a man's hip and his waist is far shorter than that of a woman. Measuring the girls the way we measure ourselves is flawed because it doesn't account for the female waist being so much higher than the male, hence a "shorter" kilt. Josh, if Margaret wants a more properly fitted kilt on the cheap, I'd be happy to sew one up for her. I'm getting pretty good, if I could just figure out how to do darts properly. Just bring me a pattern she likes, but don't ask me how much. I really suck at figuring out quantity needed. And allow me to offer a pre-emptive "shut yer hole", Jason. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: MacD
Date Posted: 5/03/06 at 5:52pm
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I don't see what the big deal is about women needing to have a "women's
kilt". The way I see it.. a kilt is a kilt. some are shorter some are longer. It's just a matter of preference for how much leg you wanna show. Personally, the "women's kilt" available at SportKilt looked way too short for my tastes, so I just ordered the "men's". (shrug) To each her own. -Deb |
Posted By: nbafo
Date Posted: 5/04/06 at 1:42am
Deb the problem I had with the men's sportkilt is that there is 11" difference in my waist to hip measurement--I had to get the L to fit my ample posterior  , but had to take inches out of the waist (even with the elastic it was gapping). I found sewing down the pleats helped, too.
weasel king--if you ease the pleats you can get a more shapely kilt for curvy women. you can dart the apron for about half of the waist/hip measurement you need to take up. pleat the material and pin as you normally would, then go back and slightly slide the top of each pleat over until you've taken up the difference here's a website on how to sew a kilt--it's for dance, but it has pictures! http://www.scottishdance.net/highland/MakingKilt.html - Making a Kilt ------------- Nancy Baker Fowler |
Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 5/04/06 at 9:19am
Personally, I bought the women's kilt from SportKilt because it was 20 bucks cheaper... And came with a shirt that I'll probably give to my little sister...  ------------- Hey, I'm a Burchett too! |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/04/06 at 9:32am
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Weasel, is this before or after you make me that pink kilt you were talking about? ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: BillB
Date Posted: 5/04/06 at 10:49am
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Pink kilt?You really will look like the dancing hippos in Fantasia! ------------- Vae Victus |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/04/06 at 11:38am
| Don't you mean he'd look more like one of the dancing hippos? |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/04/06 at 11:49am
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Indeed. More like the dancing hippos. Eclipse, I'm not making you a pink kilt until I get a promise that you'll wear it at a major event, like QC. Especially QC. Garda would make the time & money worthwhile. Thx, nbafo. I've been the sewing the pleats in before fitting, and then taking up the slack from the apron. I'll give this other approach a try. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: McSanta
Date Posted: 5/04/06 at 12:29pm
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How about a red kilt with white piping and belt loops for a big shinny black belt? Does the following gives you any ideas?
------------- Mark McVey "The work of science is to substitute facts for appearances and demonstrations for impressions." -John Ruskin |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/14/06 at 8:09am
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To all those that made Margaret feel awkward and self-concious in her mini-kilt... Thank you. I'll take my wins when I can get them. Normally I'm the one that gets made fun of for his looks. I will be filing this on away. |
Posted By: brad
Date Posted: 5/16/06 at 4:30pm
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After actually seeing the kilt, it's more of a micro than just a mini. Tell Margaret I said, "Woosh!" |
Posted By: shawnf
Date Posted: 5/16/06 at 4:59pm
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"Whoosh" Oh man... Can't forget that! Margaret looked good in it Josh. |
Posted By: kansaswolf
Date Posted: 5/16/06 at 7:38pm
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Wow... To quote my sister, "Great! Now my hips are all over the internet!" ------------- Hey, I'm a Burchett too! |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 2:54am
Anyone have any pics? I want to make Margaret self conscious too. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 5:41am
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Weasel, She will be wearing it in Springfield. |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 5:44am
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Weasel is not coming to Springfield. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 6:04am
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Brad, Margaret told me to tell you something about photos. Then I got distracted. What was I talking about?... |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 6:06am
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Fah! I'll have to wait til Milwaukee, then. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 9:47am
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Be nice... She has to put up with Josh all the time. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 11:16am
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Hell, Eclipse, you've seen those 2 interact. I think she has him trained to where she doesn't have to put up with much. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/17/06 at 11:25am
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If he was "trained" she would have had him propose before 7 years passed. I will admit, she does manipulate him well. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: McSanta
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 6:01am
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I will be slightly chivalrous and come to Margaret's rescue (though I doubt she needs it). Here I am loading up the cabers in my own unorganized fashion, and who comes over and helps???? Now of the crowd above, but Margaret. Gentlemen, what does that have to say about you? ------------- Mark McVey "The work of science is to substitute facts for appearances and demonstrations for impressions." -John Ruskin |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 7:16am
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Well stated McSanta. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 7:31am
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Indeed, Santa. What a bunch of low lifes in Des Moines, not helping. Perhaps there is a correlation between size of kilt and general usefulness. Look at Eclipse. His kilt is gigantic, and his wife tells me he complains about carrying in the dog food and softner salt. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 7:55am
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Santa, What you don't know is that Margaret is a natural disaster. I had to take her to get a tetanis shot after she managed to poke herself on a pitchfork at QC last year. And THEN she was only spectating. Maybe people were just considering their own safety. I mean, she did drop a caber on herself. |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 8:07am
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If I am correct, that was the first time she ATTEMPTED a caber. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
How did you do on your caber? Maybe you and Bill could have a caber turning challenge. Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 8:19am
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Good point Eclipse. From what I've heard about Josh, she's never had the opportunity to handle a log of appreciable size before. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 8:40am
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Great... now there are stories!? ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 10:16am
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Bob, I picked the caber all 4 times this time around. So I'm getting better. Weasel, My caber is also difficult for Margaret to pick. |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 10:28am
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Pick out of the tangle of hair, perhaps. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 10:29am
| Why? You want a closer look. Sicko. |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 10:43am
*shudder* You without clothes prolly looks like a naked troll doll. Gonna be hard to clear my brain of that visual.------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 11:18am
| Oh so you like them "pretty" types, then. Watch out, Bob. |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 11:36am
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I am a pretty type? That is news to me. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: littleone
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 11:43am
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We went from Ladies kilts to "How Bigga Boy Are ya?!" Geez! Mini Kilt Mamma
------------- "Lead, Follow or get the Hell outta my way!" |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 11:56am
| Yeah, the drop-off to our conversations is pretty steep. |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 11:56am
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I am just surprised anyone who can see would call me pretty. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 11:58am
| ...but if you took fat jokes and dick jokes away from Weasel he wouldn't have anything at all. And NO, Star Wars doesn't count. |
Posted By: weaselking
Date Posted: 5/18/06 at 3:11pm
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Au contraire. I also have hair jokes and, to a lesser extent, intelligence jokes. ------------- We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand |