lets all give a helping hand this holiday
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Topic: lets all give a helping hand this holiday
Posted By: will barron
Subject: lets all give a helping hand this holiday
Date Posted: 12/09/06 at 4:17am
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everyone list their one favorite excercise for the following so we can all copy it: 1) gym excercise for the caber. (include description of how the hell to do it.) 2) core excercise.
my favorites: (caber) take a heavy dumbell and grab handle with both hands. drop down into caber stance and throw dumbell up above head. (core) 16# hammer winds - sets of 10 relaxed winds - go one direction and then the other. do 60 reps total, 2x a week - I think something more explosive though might help my core training- Rick? medicine ball slams? where do you get a wall?
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Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 12/09/06 at 4:38am
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I don't have extensive experience so take this for what it's worth. Caber - Use a cable machine on the bottom pulley with a "V" grip handle. I assume the squat pull position as the start and come up on the legs to the toes while pulling up with the arms past the chest and up and over the head for a full slightly back arched extension. I start light to warm up and then will do a couple of heavier sets in the 80-100 lb range for 10-12 reps. Core - hammer winds are great as long as the tacky sticks. Again, I like the cable machine. Set the position about waist high and position the body so the pulley is inline with the side. Reach over with both hands and draw the handle across the body and finish on the opposite side. ------------- Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy. - Outlaw Josey Wales |
Posted By: kgb1
Date Posted: 12/09/06 at 6:14am
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Will, I use the brick wall at the school four blocks from my house. No windows below 25-30', so I'm pretty "safe" there. After all my tax dollars are being spent for upkeep of the schools and my twins aren't old enough to go to school yet, so I might as well get some benefit. A core favorite of mine is to load an cheap bar w/ 135 - 185 lbs, clean and press it overhead, then start walk/run for time (keeping it pressed overhead the whole time). I've got some friends that train for strong man and we'll set up a course with a 2 or 3 cones to go around. The more changes in direction the more it works the core. Slowest time buys after training beverages. Usually try to cover 80-100 yards. Might be difficult in the Syracuse snow. Rick |
Posted By: Eclipse
Date Posted: 12/09/06 at 3:51pm
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Caber - I don't do anything. Core - Core Busters, standing weighted barbell twists with a dip in the middle of each rep in a power position stance. Sets of 10, 15, or 20 (right/left = 1). Load the bar up and go nuts. Bodyweight or better is usually good. ------------- "Somewhere in Russia, a little girl is warming up with your max." - Anonymous "Do not demand what you can not take by force." |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/10/06 at 4:24am
| caber- I like Will's dumbell thing - also caber cleans - caber on ground -go grab the under the big end in a fingers linked caber grip -u can pull from the ground or raise to hip high and do drops and pops or run in place like a caber run up then quickly do a jump stop drop and pop......................................core - ain't nothin' in the world like a proper Russian twist - grab a 10lb plate to start- sit on a bench where you can hook your feet/toes under something(I use a loaded bar or a couple of big dumbells, whatever) - with only your butt on bench, lay back to a suspended horizontal position and start twisting as far from side to side as possible w. straight arms 3 x10reps- I'm moving to a 35lb plate next week - I've got muscles under my "soft jiggle" ......I swear! |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/10/06 at 4:52am
| Will = medball wall slams can be done w. a sheaf against almost any type of strong wall - be violent w. these. Both ways and overhead.KILL THE WALL. |
Posted By: SpankyMcgee
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 4:27am
Baab I haven't seen these done before, can you post up some pics or explain the movements. Also what weight medicene ball are you using? |
M-BAAB wrote:Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 5:53am
| Spanky - real simple - stand perpindicular (SP) to wall - about a foot or so out - swivel waaay back like the last pull on a weight for distance throw - go ahead and use perfect form (hips first,etc) ....using both hands - rip that bastard around focusing on the body swivel - not the arms - SLAM into the wall - catch - and immediately repeat - I usually do a couple sets of 10 both sides....Medball s- use all weights - use a sheaf - try to be real smooth and violent at same time.Make sense? |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 6:54am
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I would say I deadlift for Caber, but I have to be honest, I use it on WOB also. Core is more personal. Tell them Mike.
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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 7:06am
If the dead/front is heavy enough - who needs core , right?
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 7:45am
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That's a fact. ------------- |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 11:13am
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Look up Fedor's Fury on Youtube. Show's some sledgehammer work from one of the best fighters in the world. |
Posted By: nesa
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 11:14am
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For Caber...Caber toss itself... For Core...press a stone overhead and walk uphill... What are all these "gym exercises" people keep talking about? I'm confused...I thought gyms were where they played basketball...? |
Posted By: big MAC
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 11:18am
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Caber- muffled cursing
Core- high rep or heavy weight front squats or split jerks ------------- |
Posted By: 17/20
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 12:12pm
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Will, the Partial Deads (4") off season. Did them once w/ Big Brother - never seen again . I think nesa ( not sure what a nesa is) must be a B. Troupe club member. Bob was all about training the caber for the caber . I recall Bob talking about length (21'-22') not so much weight. DD Stewart . ------------- I MAY BE BIG , BUT I'M FAST |
Posted By: david barron
Date Posted: 12/11/06 at 1:10pm
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It was 700 pounds you maniac. I had never even seen that much weight on a bar. Plus it was late at night at BU field house, and THAT place is definitely haunted.
------------- Average joe |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 12/12/06 at 3:34am
| I had a campus cop friend who would let me in the gym at school at midnight to deadlift when I was a ute. I would have some wild sessions there at night. People are out at the club and I am coming in from a session. I can appreciate 17/20. |
Posted By: SpankyMcgee
Date Posted: 12/12/06 at 4:38am
Perfect, thanks Baab. |
Posted By: nesa
Date Posted: 12/12/06 at 12:17pm
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Did I just read an excuse from David?? No way, I must've have read it wrong. 17/20...How do you throw bigger cabers? (chorus chimes in from behind)...You throw bigger cabers! |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 12/12/06 at 12:22pm
| Mike, I love to smash the ball that way. I am on my second ball now, worn the first out. |
Posted By: cabertosser
Date Posted: 12/12/06 at 12:37pm
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What is a ute? ------------- You f**ked up - you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/12/06 at 12:49pm
| Hack - BEST stress reliever in the world........KILL THE WALL!!! |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/12/06 at 12:53pm
| Did anyone notice Little Red Willie doing 60 hammer winds? Most of us am's don't wind that much in a month - maybe THAT'S why they get paid? |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 4:02am
| It is a youth, they used ute in "My Cousin Vinnie", and I like it. |
Posted By: Pingleton
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 4:17am
At least if you don't wear a belt. I NEVER wear a lifting belt.
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Posted By: Bert Sorin
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 4:28am
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Caber: "Caber Pulls" on the Hurricane. I am sure many of you have seen the photo that was on Ironmind. if I were more computer savvy, i would post the photo hear. We use bands to make sure you attempt to accelerate through the pull, and the tendo to make sure bar (or in this case caber) speed is kept high. No sense in moving something heavy if it is slow. Closest thing I can find to actual caber, and I can adjust the weight and speed. If you don't have one of these machines, a simple but still good exercise would be overhead heaves with heavy med ball, shot put, or KB.
Core exercise: Not my actual favorite, but nice for this time of year. Just wear a 20 - 40lb. weight vest everytime you work out in the gym, for everything. Works the torso for stabilization in all angles and is not too hard on the body. Stimulated the core, but lets it recover after a long season. Yesterday I did Kettlebell swings, bottoms up catch to press, floor presses super setted with bar chin ups (lying on the floor), and some arm stuff. I did no "core exercises" but having almost 10% of our body weight extra on your chest for close to an hour hits the ole back and abs pretty well.
Bert ------------- In Strength and Throws, Bert |
Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 4:59am
For the caber I like two things:
I also have developed a rehab/maintenance complex for my lower back issues:
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 5:09am
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Lumberjacks!..Art McDermott was supposed to mass produce this device and sell it never heard anymore about the device but you can use a kettbell..swing between legs(sort of like a pull thru) then explode up and in front of you bringing bell/device to eye level..can be also use with hungarian core blaster that is on Bert Sorin's website(or for the thrifty/scottish) dan John has directions to make it-just use short handles if making it your self..start out with one set x 8-15 reps..fries lower back and hammies ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: jimmymac
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 10:39am
How do you keep from ripping your arms off if you are strapped in? When I was taught to do them I was told to drop the weight on the way down. ------------- May the Risen Lord grant that the strength of his life, peace and freedom be experienced everywhere. - B16 |
Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 11:01am
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I guess the eccentric catch hits the traps harder! I just do sort of a plyometric catch, trying to absorb the weight with the hips and traps.
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Posted By: 17/20
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 11:30am
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Mike, love the inversion table sit-ups . A must for all Big Pullers ( Dave and Will stop reading) to decompress the spine after a big pulling session. The table, along w/ the reverse hypers have done wonders w/ the lower back. ------------- I MAY BE BIG , BUT I'M FAST |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 12:53pm
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reverse hypers will also do wonders for hammies(i think you need them for the games??) Hey 17/20-135lbs parallel squat for 15 reps today!!but more importantly 10 minutes on the eliptical trainer!!! ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 12/13/06 at 12:54pm
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LOOKS LIKE I"LL BE OK FOR STANDING!! ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: LarryBrock
Date Posted: 12/14/06 at 3:58am
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I like to train for marathons to change things up a bit. I dont like to get in a rut... it helps with my wob brock ------------- "No man Is entirely worthless, he can always serve as a bad example" Brian Oldfield |