please help my back....
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Topic: please help my back....
Posted By: will barron
Subject: please help my back....
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 5:02am
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after an hour of throwing open stone in practice, I was tieing my hammer boots up and my low back suddenly seized up and was super tight. It didn't hurt to throw the hammer but now when I am sitting or standing up from sitting - my back feels in horrible pain. Then subsides completely when walking or standing.
It didn't hurt to throw the 28 two days later - but still persists with the same pain 5 days later...

any suggestions for my whining?
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Posted By: MJurkoic
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 5:10am
Will. do you have access to a pool? I had a very bad lower back injury about 8 years ago. I saw numerous chiropractors, orthopaedics, massage therapists, etc., for months Nothing helped. Since I'm a big guy my wife suggested I try floating in a pool to get some stress off my body. I did for 3 or 4 hours and it worked really well. I don't know why. It may have been a fluke or just a coincidence but it worked.
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 5:34am
will barron wrote:
after an hour of throwing open stone in practice, I was tieing my hammer boots up and my low back suddenly seized up and was super tight. It didn't hurt to throw the hammer but now when I am sitting or standing up from sitting - my back feels in horrible pain. Then subsides completely when walking or standing.
It didn't hurt to throw the 28 two days later - but still persists with the same pain 5 days later...

any suggestions for my whining?
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I pointed out your problem. you're welcome.
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Posted By: Valenti
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 7:40am
rest ,rest and rest,,,,,drop out of Bethlehem now
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Capt. Tony Taracino
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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 7:55am
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Wee Willie - you need to take a nice hot bath , then go lay on the bed and stretch that thing out - 2-3 times a day - focus on hamstrings - (everytime you have low back pain - it's the hammies) and throwing your leg over to stretch lower back . You probabaly can reach back to your lower back area while doing the leg thrown over stretch and feel a hard,hot knot that needs to be rubbed until it breaks up. After stretching, lay there on floor w. feet up on a chair - taking all stress off lower back for 15-20 minutes ...then very slowly ease your way back up . Repeat as necesarry - you gotta get the spasm to realax and your lower back bones in line.
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 10:05am
Find a reverse hyper machine....do 4 sets X 10-20 reps each day for the next 4 days
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Posted By: Valenti
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 10:10am
Heavy deadlifts and good mornings...do them as heavy as possible every day for the next two weeks...dont stop when you feel pain,,,if you do you are a pussy...keep pushing you want to throw far right? got to lift heavy.
I also have Mcnaughton dropping banana peels all the way down your driveway as we speak.
------------- "All you need in this life is a tremendous sex drive and a great ego...brains don't mean sh!t"
Capt. Tony Taracino
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Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 10:32am
MJurkoic wrote:
Will. do you have access to a pool? |
Matt, how much of the pool did you displace when you hopped in?
Sorry Will, hope the back is feeling better.
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 10:35am
hey Mark was going thru the channels before and they had an infomercial on MSNBC for a machine called corevolution(wgich is basically a poor mans reverse hyper...even had Louie talking about the design,how it would benefit a sore back by strengthening and building an awesome set of hammies and glutes
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SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES
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Posted By: LarryBrock
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 12:15pm
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Will you have a pulled muscle in your back, I have the same thing. It does not hurt when you are moving because the muscle is warm and moving when you stop the lactic acid builds up and then your muscle hurts again.....I have the same thing, ice stretch, and basically deal with it as best as possible
just my suggestion
brock
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Posted By: john gallagher
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 1:02pm
Do you guys need my phone number? That number 11 spot is feeling good and ready to go! I agree with Craig. What the hell are you doing practicing so damn much this close to the big show? Rest, eat (this is the most important part), heat, stretch, then, ice, ice, ice. Valenti, you got my number don't you?
------------- MSUM Throws Coach 4 NCAA National Champions 50 NCAA All-Americans 2001 & 2002 World Stone Put Champion
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Posted By: Coach Mac
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 2:58pm
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Will...back strain OR sprain....! ICE for 72-hours. Try mimicing the reverse hyper machine. I hang off the kitchen counter...let il the hips drop....and then TRY to lift your legs with knee's BENT!
SLEEP on your side with a pillow lodged between your knee's OR on the back with calves evelvated in extreme cases.
Ironically I have not been to the chiropractor since MArch of 2005 until the other day when a 600-lb rubber mat decided too move me instead of the other way around. Good thing that Steve C didn't take me up on the bet....
HOPE your feeling better
------------- Have a GREAT Day !
Rob " Coach Mac " Mac Kay
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Posted By: Nico
Date Posted: 9/16/07 at 4:22pm
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3 years ago I pulled my back in a similar way. I was learning the clean and jerk and I was about to warm up with a very light weight, grab the bar, start the pull and...voila! I couldn't stand straight. Frozen. It was bad. I couldn't lift for months. I saw a surgeon, a chiropractor. Nothing, it wouldn't go away. then I saw a physical therapist. He stretch me like you couldn't believe it. It was painful but efficient. He taught me some exercises to stretch the lower back, glutes, hips and Hamstrings. It went away.
I keep my back strong but usually after heavy deadlifting, doing high reps kettlebell swings or lifting rocks my back gets pretty beat up. I strectch those muscles and I'm like new.
good luck,
------------- Nico
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Posted By: MJurkoic
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 3:40am
Al, practically all of it!
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Posted By: agm_
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 4:47am
In all of this talk about stretching, nobody has
mentioned hip flexors. I had on-and-off back pain for a
few years, which at times was so bad I couldn't walk
straight. When it was loose enough to throw, stone
throwing tightened the hell out of it. I finally found a
chiropractor/ART practitioner who diagnosed the problem
- super tight hip flexors. Between the work she did on
me, and daily stretching of the hip flexors, it's no
longer a problem.
I don't want to contradict someone with the athletic
background of Mike Baab, but usually tight hamstrings
are not the problem, they're a symptom. Tight hip
flexors pull at the pelvis, tilting it down in front,
which of course means up in back, which pulls at the
hamstrings and tightens them, and causes back pain. So
if you have back pain that's not from a damaged disk,
check your hamstrings, and if they're tight, stretch
your hip flexors.
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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 5:05am
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Adam - my bad. I religously stretch hip flexors too - I'm fortunate to be very flexible there and feel no tightness there - listen to Adam - lotsa directed stretching will help all of us.2-3 times a day.
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Posted By: david barron
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 5:11am
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 5:13am
Will if you don't have access to a rev hyper machine..get a high table where if you put your upper body and core on it -your feet hang down(body will be in the shape of a L) bring feet up and feel the contraction in hip/glute/lowerback area...do for high reps...good luck Will
------------- JUST BRING IT /
SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES
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Posted By: Jason Pauli
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 5:47am
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Will my back has felt great for the past three years.
I credit rollerblading.
Seriously though I hope it clears up!
------------- Team Pauli - You never walk alone
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Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 6:12am
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Will,
Sounds to me like back spasms - does it feel like everything locks up really suddenly when you stand? You get to start healing as soon as you can get the spasms to let up. Pharmaceutically I have to go with Craig on his earlier recommendation of Soma. That really helped break the cycle and I only had to take it for a day and a half. The other recommendation that I got from several folks was an inversion table. I bought one (you can get one of the hang-ups that Don Stewart suggested at costco.com for $299 shipping included) and have had really good results with it so far. Every time I start to tighten up I go hang on the thing for a few minutes and it loosens up.
Good luck my friend, I know it hurts.
------------- Cheers,
Carlos
"Live free or die"
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Posted By: G-man
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 7:25am
david barron wrote:
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Ditto = I had the same exact problem. had and atlas stone worked out then later on that night bent down to pick some thing up and ended up flat on my back!!
heat Advil and when you can try to lossen up the hams and back muscles to avoid re injury
Better than muscle than the spine!!
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Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 10:52am
Only Pu$$ies let back injuries slow them down......er um, wait a minute.....
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Posted By: nesa
Date Posted: 9/17/07 at 12:06pm
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My suggestion?? Stop Whining! Suck it up and get back to work! Pain lets you know you're alive...if you don't feel pain...you're dead already!
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Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 9/18/07 at 3:46am
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I knew it was only a matter of time before Eric posted this exact comment.
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Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 9/18/07 at 3:46am
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and thanks everyone...even Eric
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Posted By: nesa
Date Posted: 9/18/07 at 10:46am
I wouldn't want to let you down...seriously though, heal up for CC.
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Posted By: UpChucker
Date Posted: 9/21/07 at 10:06am
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http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=176&pid=492 - http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&am p;cid=176&pid=492
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