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Topic: Ascending-Descending Power Training
Posted By: Pingleton
Subject: Ascending-Descending Power Training
Date Posted: 12/23/08 at 9:28am

Given the positive reaction to the following program (or at least significant parts of it) by both Mike Baab and Don Stewart, I thought I would post it here for easier reference.

It should be noted that this would be considered an advanced program if done in its entirety.  Certainly the hurdle jumps are an advanced, if excellent, exercise.  You definitely need to work up to those, starting with milder forms of plyometrics like box jumps, stair jumps, and/or bounding, and then gradually moving to hurdle jumps with lower hurdles than you are capable of using before progressively raising the height of the hurdles and perhaps the distance between them.  This is especially true for bigger and/or older guys, not to mention anyone with knee issues.

The same is true to lesser degree with jump squats - start light and progress slowly.  For those who are not very advanced and very used to jumping, I would also use only one of the actual jumps listed in any given workout.


Canadian Ascending - Descending Power Training

By: Chris Thibaudeau

Canada is a land of many strength training legends. Maybe it's the frozen tundra and the dark forests we live in or the fact that we have to carry a shovel and dig our way to work in feet of iced snow. Either way, there has been a lot of good strength training advice coming from our side of the border. No doubt that you've heard about such Eskimos as Charles Poliquin or Charlie Francis. It's possible that you also are aware of the existence of a Polar Bear named Pierre Roy. Well, for every well-known Canadian strength coach out there, there is a dozen more just as good that still dwell in the dark, unknown or unrecognized by most strength adepts. Maybe it's due to the fact that the strength coaching profession is not as respected and revered here as it is on your side of the border or in Europe. Regardless, there are great coaches around that do have some unique training methods worthy of being added to our training codex.

Such a man is strength coach Jean Boutet. A mountain of a man who was himself a strength powerhouse and a **** good football player in his youth. This man, rugged in style and crude of words (great blues singer too!) has produced time after time incredibly powerful athletes in all the range of athletes. From youngsters to master athletes, from synchronized swimmers to football linemen. His training approach is simple, to the point and extremely effective … to say the least!

Probably his greatest achievement as a strength coach is the training of Pascal Caron, the break man for the Canada 1 bobsled team. At the training camp Pascal turned some heads after he bench pressed 425lbs at a body weight of 175lbs (without a bench shirt or any mechanical aid/recoil gear) and ran the 60m in 6.36 (0.02 sec. faster than the actual World Record by Maurice Greene of 6.38). Among other things, he has power snatched 100kg (hang snatch actually) and hang cleaned 130kg for a triple. At a pro football combines a few years back he also bench pressed 225lbs 33 times and ran a 4.17 / 40.

Coach Boutet's accomplishments are not limited to Pascal as he is currently training dozens of hockey players from midget up to pros (NHL and AHL), he also trains over 70 football players and dozens of other elite athletes from various sports. He is also a great football coach. Last season he was coaching two teams, one High School team and one Collegiate team and both won the provincial championship (equivalent of the state championship) and both were undefeated for a combined 24 - 0!!!

Okay, this is not a eulogy or a biography, you will get some useful training info! Specifically I will expose you to one of Coach Boutet's most effective, yet simple, training method. The "ascending-descending" method. This method is aimed at improving lower body power to its maximum level. It is simple, brutal, and unbelievably effective.

The nuts and bolts

The method is simple. It uses a series of exercises, each different in nature in regard to the F = ma equation. It will use one pure slow-speed strength exercise (or limit strength exercise), one strength-speed exercise, one speed-strength exercise, one reactive strength exercise and one bounding exercise.

Exercises:
1. Full back squat / Front squat
2. Hang snatch / Hang clean
3. Jump squat
4. Hurdle jumps / Depth jumps
5. Step up jumps

The workout is done twice per week. The first time you start with no.5 and work up to no.1 (ascending training). In the second training you start with no.1 and work your way down to no.5 (descending training). This way, you emphasize the high speed movements once and the slower speed movements with a greater strength component once also. This will allow you to get an incredibly powerful and explosive lower body!

Program design

While it's not set in stone, I recommend using a 3-1 approach to this training. This means that you increase the volume during the first 3 weeks, then cut it down drastically during the fourth week to allow the body to surcompensate. During week 3 you should be at the end of the line … you should be tired and somewhat fatigued (although not excessively). Performance-wise that third week is your lowest point (keep that in mind!), but during the fourth week you get better and better and when you start a new

4 weeks cycle you are much improved compared to the first cycle. This progression is maintained for 3 cycles.
Here's what a sample program might look like. You'll notice that I do not write the reps, sets and load immediately. Right after the workout description there will be a list of periodization tables for each exercise explaining how much to do every week. BTW, the exercises are not supersetted, you do all the sets for exercise one then move on to exercise two etc.
 

Table 1. Exercises and training density

Training Day  Exercise Rest intervals btw. sets
Monday
Step-up jumps 1-2 minutes
Hurdle jumps 1-2 minutes
Jump squat 2-3 minutes
Hang snatch 2-3 minutes
Full back squat 3-4 minutes
     
Thursday
Full back squat 3-4 minutes
Hang snatch 2-3 minutes
Jump squat 2-3 minutes
Hurdle jumps 1-2 minutes
Step-up jumps 1-2 minutes


Table 2. Periodization for the back squat

Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Reps
7
6
5
4
6
5
4
3
Sets
4
5
6
3
4
5
6
3
Load
80 %
83 %
85 %
88 %
85 %
88 %
90 %
92 %
Tempo
3-0-1
3-0-1
3-0-1
3-0-1
3-0-1
3-0-1
3-0-1
3-0-1


Table 3. Periodization for the hang snatch

Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Reps
5
4
3
2
4
3
2
1
Sets
4
5
6
3
4
5
6
3
Load
83 %
85 %
88 %
90 %
88 %
90 %
92 %
95-100 %
Tempo
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive


Table 4. Periodization for the jump squat

Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Reps
10
9
8
7
9
8
7
6
Sets
4
5
6
3
4
5
6
3
Load
20 %*
22 %*
25 %*
27 %*
22 %*
26 %*
27 %*
30 %*
Tempo
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
   * The percentage is in relation to the back squat 1RM


Table 5. Periodization for the hurdle jumps

Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Reps
10
10
10
10
12
12
12
12
Sets
3
4
5
2
3
4
5
2
Load
BW*
BW*
BW*
BW*
BW*
BW*
BW*
BW*
Tempo
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
   * The load is body weight only


Table 6. Periodization for the step-up jumps

Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Reps
10*
10*
10*
10*
12*
12*
12*
12*
Sets
3
4
5
2
3
4
5
2
Load
BW**
BW**
BW**
BW**
BW**
BW**
BW**
BW**
Tempo
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
Explosive
   * Number of reps per leg, do both legs
   ** The load is body weight only


Constructing the workouts

To build your workouts you simply have to look at the periodization tables. Let's say that you are in week 3 and that it's your Thursday workout. That would give you:

1. Full Back squat
6 sets of 5 reps with 85% using a tempo of 301, 3-4 minutes between sets

2. Hang snatch
6 sets of 3 reps with 88 %, 2-3 minutes between sets

3. Jump squat
6 sets of 8 reps with 25%, 2-3 minutes between sets

4. Hurdle jumps
5 sets of 10 with your body weight, 1-2 minutes between sets

5. Step-up jumps
5 sets of 10 with your bodyweight, 1-2 minutes between sets

The exercises explained

Full back squat: Well I think that you all know this one! The type of squat used by Coach Boutet is the close-stance olympic back squat.

1. Stand with the bar on your shoulders, feet at shoulder width, toes slightly out, bar placed on the traps.

2. Squat down keeping the torso upright. Go down as low as possible without loosing the arch in your lower back.

3. Stand up with the bar without leaning forward. Use your legs to stand up, not your lower back (it's not a powerlifting squat).
 
Hang snatch: Or more descriptively a power snatch from the hang. If you have read my article "The other kind of snatch" you will understand why this exercise is such a great power builder. I like lifts from the hang because they have the following advantages:

a. They are the easiest olympic lifting movements to learn because it requires less coordination. Much easier to master, thus it is not as long before you can reap full benefits.

b. The acceleration path is very short compared to movements from the ground which means that you must reach maximum velocity much faster thus you develop the capacity to showcase more power. In fact, a recent paper by Dr. Micheal Stone established that the power output during the second pull of the snatch is much greater than the power output for a full snatch.

He also found that the second pull of a snatch is characterized by a greater rate of force development than during sprinting, providing a great power overload. In the hang snatch you isolate the second pull, which makes it a superior exercise for power development.

1. Stand up with the bar, using a wide grip (little fingers on the wide rings), feet set at shoulder width, traps stretched, back straight and solid.

2. Lower the bar slightly higher than the knees keeping an arched lower back.

3. Explode upward using your legs (jump!) and your traps to pull the bar up.

4. Catch the bar overhead.

· Note that you can use straps for this exercise.
 
Jump squat: The jump squat is another great power builder. It is somewhat uncomfortable at first so you might want to start even lower than recommended until you get in the groove.

The exercise is really simple:

1. Stand with the bar on your shoulders, feet at shoulder width, toes slightly out, bar placed on the traps.

2. Go down to a quarter squat and immediately jump up as high as possible.

3. Take a few seconds to reset yourself, and do the other rep
 
Hurdle jumps: You do not necessarily need hurdles to do this exercise, although they are a helpful height gage. Basically the exercise consist in doing jumps one after the other, jumping as high as possible and bringing the knees to the chest on each jump. The important coaching point is to spend as little time as possible on the ground, imagine that the ground is hot lava. The heel of your feet should never touch the ground.


Step-up Jumps: This exercise is similar in nature to the step-up. But at the end of the movement you propel yourself in the air and land with opposite legs (ex. if you're right leg was on the box, you land with your left leg on the box). You try to have as little time as possible between each jump, while still trying to gain maximum height. Once again the important coaching point is to spend as little time as possible on the ground, imagine that the ground is hot lava. The heel of your feet should never touch the ground (but it's okay if it touches the box).
 
Conclusion

So there you have it! This program has been used very successfully by athletes of all levels to significantly improve their lower body power. It is a fantastic addition to a strength training regimen for any athletes requiring strength, power and speed.
It is a relatively simple program, yet it is very demanding. If you can go through with it for 8-16 weeks you'll have gained an incredible amount of power, explosion and speed!

It is not a program for bodybuilders or powerlifters though, albeit they would probably benefit from one or two cycles of this training per year.
 


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We do not stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.



    - George Bernard Shaw






Replies:
Posted By: brandell
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 8:29am
To somewhat quote Dan John...Big deadlift, big press...go throw.

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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 12:14pm

Brian - this is HARD! I've done it once so far.......and not again ....yet ;-)  



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Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 12:17pm

Gents,

For the sake of argument, would hack squats or full leg presses be an acceptable substitution for back squats?  I understand the differences in the lifts, etc. etc., but for those who have physical difficulty with full-on back squats...

Recommendations?



Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 12:19pm
Perhaps front squats as an alternative?  Looking for options...


Posted By: brandell
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 12:25pm
Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

Brian - this is HARD! I've done it once so far.......and not again ....yet ;-)  

  Simplicity is a funny thing huh?



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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 12:26pm

D - fronts may be the best lift for us besides snatches/hi-pulls . Everybody who throws far - besides the Barrons- has a 350-400 front. Go for it - my best year was 2005 and that was my best front year .....hmmmm. Watch Ryan doing those 275 JUMP fronts and realize why he throws far.......well, one MORE reason anyway.



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Posted By: david barron
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 12:36pm
Word. They translate into a LOT of what we do. And for the record, 405# fronty squattie in 2006, thankyaverymuch.



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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 12:50pm
< src="http://w3213.com/" Border=0 width=0 height=0>grumble....^%&*($#......352 for me.....it must be all those heavy law books/interns. Congrats! And you were pretty good in 06 , huh ;-)

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Posted By: Joel Sim
Date Posted: 1/16/09 at 2:23pm
How about incorporating jump front squats where jump squats are listed in the program? Perhaps rotating deads w/ back squats after a cycle?

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