caber technique
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Topic: caber technique
Posted By: jpfitness1
Subject: caber technique
Date Posted: 9/30/09 at 10:54am
| I'm not sure if this is even a possibility of being an improvement, but is it in the rules to put one knee down to assist with picking up the caber? I think it would help with the flexibility to get down to the ground, but it might put you more off centered, so i'm not sure if its even an improvement. Just wondering. |
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Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 9/30/09 at 10:32pm
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I don't see anything in the rules that would dis-allow putting a knee down to help pick. I have never seen it done and would not suggest. You can't be balanced on a knee when you are trying to stand and balance the caber. The initial pull from the ground is just a small pop, but has be quick and smooth.
------------- Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy. - Outlaw Josey Wales |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/01/09 at 5:56am
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JP - Spread legs waaay out and drop butt. Not the knee thing.imo ------------- 51 , 72 and 15 at 50 |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/01/09 at 6:00am
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yea, seriously, don't do that. ------------- |
Posted By: Daniel McKim
Date Posted: 10/02/09 at 6:27am
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Yep, that'd be hard for your balance - which is the key for caber. Without balance, you've got no hope! Spread the legs out and bend at the waist. If flexibility is tough, then hit those hammy streches. ------------- http://www.believethrower.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.believethrower.com |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/02/09 at 7:46am
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I want to piggy back opn this and maybe I can get an answer too- The pick I have is solid- I am trying to balance the forward speed with the upward pull. It seems like if I run faster I can have a nice flip, but I get out of breath a bit, and as the caber gets heavier I am affraid I won't have the oooomph! to make it over. As I train, should I try to shorten my run, or forward speed, and work on the pull more? I don't have many cabers.
------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/02/09 at 7:50am
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p.s. if that is you craig- I have watched thsi video 100 plus times!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEO8b4hDJVs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEO8b4hDJVs
and you make me have hope that I can compete some day. if the above poster is not Craig, well - you may want to check this bad ass out! FF ------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/02/09 at 8:13am
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Tis I. Glad I could be of some assistance
(and btw, that caber actaully weighed out at 168, not 140.) ------------- |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/02/09 at 8:36am
yeah yeah blah blah,,,
so, about the forward movement and the pull. You seem to run real fast. what is your breathing thoughts. Are you breathing alot, or buildi9ng pressure? ------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
C. Smith wrote:Posted By: West
Date Posted: 10/02/09 at 9:08am
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i tend to be a better caber turner when I move slower. The longer you run, the more its going to drain your energy, so try to shorten your run, maybe. no matter what you do its going to tire you out though.
and in regards to the video. I apologize if its somebody on here, but someone posted a question about how heavy it was......even though the video shows the height and weight of it at the beginning of the video. haha ------------- Drink to the fame of it, honor the name of it, The Tartan. |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/02/09 at 9:10am
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well, from what I understand the caber was significantly heavier than what the video says
------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 12:25am
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Since Craig turned it, had it filmed, edited it and posted it and then commented on it was heavier, I would guess he would know. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 12:46am
| turning 168 lbs is not blah to me. that is a heavy freaking tree... |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 3:29am
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breathing? hmmmm...i have no idea, lol. ------------- |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 3:36am
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I was teasing with the blah blah. This dude Craig is radical.
------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: 70theelder
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 5:16am
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We are supposed to breathe??? ------------- Three sets of twenty ought to make you feel strong. |
Posted By: Hapy
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 10:53am
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Some folks like to run real far, and others only take a step or 2.
Some of this depends on the length of the caber and the amount of taper on it. I think the folks who run a long way with it do this because the caber gets in front of them and they are chasing it. I would think that 10 to 20 steps should really be the maximum you would need to run with it in order to impart the maximum velocity on the stick. - however if it gets away from you, it may be possible to run back underneath it, necessitating longer running. For me, its not really how fast I run, (or how far) but how fast I can stop and still get a full pull on it. p.s. and seriously 168lb caber is no joke - that's godlike. ------------- Real Men Wear Purple Tinky Winky Throw Far! http://www.facebook.com/CVTSA" rel="nofollow - Central Vermont Strength Association |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 11:06am
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Running is out. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 12:35pm
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fyp ------------- |
Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/05/09 at 4:20pm
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Down on 1 knee, if your proposing to a women, plus if the caber decides to
do something different while your on one knee you could be on 2 knee's hands spread out and caber being extracted out of some orfice or it could be the worst public castration known to man. Out of breath running with the caber sounds like you need some cardio. Myles don't try to combine race walking and caber tossing as a new hybrid in the games just because you can't run, we would have to call you Mr' Swishy kilt instead of Mule. ha |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/06/09 at 2:12am
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Ignore me and listen to Craig. Clearly turns the big sticks. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: 70theelder
Date Posted: 10/06/09 at 3:21am
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When you pick the caber get as low as you can. I am not the least bit flexible so i have to pop it pretty good. I also squeeze the caber with my neck till i get it where i want it. Good short run, be as quick as possible then when you stop STOP. Don't tippietoe into the pull you will loose all the momentum you gained from the run. Then it becomes simple-pull the end off the stick. ------------- Three sets of twenty ought to make you feel strong. |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/06/09 at 5:23am
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I think I was holding my breath as I was working my way down the caber and taking too long. I am in cardio shape, but I was suprised how out of breath I got on that caber toss. hmmmm, just thought about it when I am training at the park it didnt happen, so I think nerves played a role too. ------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 10/07/09 at 6:20am
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How far you run isn't nearly as important as how fast you accelerate the caber. When Larry Brock is healthy, he can get the caber moving faster in 6-8 steps than most anyone else running 50 yards with it! What you are trying to do is accelerate the top of the caber to create a whiplash that aids in turning the caber when you stop and pull vertically...assuming your timing is correct. Strong guys can turn good cabers without accelerating it, relying on timing and a huge pull...but, to turn great cabers, even the strongest guy has to accelerate the stick. |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 10/07/09 at 6:56am
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Well said Mike ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: Daniel McKim
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 4:13am
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My philosophy has always been that the longer and heavier the caber, the faster I need to get it moving. Once you can combine speed, power and timing, that's when you start turning bigger sticks and turning 12's. ------------- http://www.believethrower.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.believethrower.com |
Posted By: Coach Mac
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 4:39am
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Physics of Caber Tossing: Like EVERY throwing event its the same 3-variables:
1) height of release (more on that later) 2) Angle of release 3) V-E-L-O-C-I-T-Y
!) a TALLER thrower has an advantage, however a shorter thrower that CARRIES the caber higher (versus arms extended) could have an advantage ! 2) The kinethetics or FEEL of when too pull is probably the biggest technical fault (after dropping the hands= lifting the caber twice) . 3) Yeah a 14-foot 80-lb caber can be tossed by just about anyone from a stand with one-arm. IF. however, you are in Braemar in front of the Queen with a 19' 6" ( 140-lb) stick...you are going to have too either get the top of the caber moving as fast as possible OR dead lift 1.000 -lbs. too even get a turn on it. Matt Sanford...Jim Mc Goldrick (Ryan -when he not conservative... ------------- Have a GREAT Day ! Rob " Coach Mac " Mac Kay |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 5:43am
WTF! guess I'll just slash my wrists right now! hahaa --you bastahd! but- I'll bet you I remember this everytime I turn my training caber and get to 100 out of 100 sooner rather than later! Todd ------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 6:52am
This is the part of a throw that in my opinion you either have or do not have. Very hard to coach kinisthetic awareness. Good point coach. ------------- Donate lately? |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 7:45am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEO8b4hDJVs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEO8b4hDJVs ok- in this vid Craig runs/stops with a verticle caber (:23) into a squat (he decends into that squat during run= lowering the caber) / explodes for a pull (:25). I have been reading that we should pull prior to the caber tipping (Kenetics) forward. But- craig's caber is well on its way, prior to his "pull?" Did he overcome kenetics with strength? He is not one of the big fattys?
------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 8:03am
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Craig is retarded strong. He may not be the best example in this case. ------------- Donate lately? |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 8:10am
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My pull there was late. I was going fast enough to overcome that. Being strong never hurts. ------------- |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 8:17am
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so-- then it is the speed of the run, in that crazy squat position, that CAN help me compensate for not weighing 260 lbs? I want to be good at the caber toss, Boss. lol edited 3 times ------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 10/13/09 at 8:52am
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To be specific, Craig's pull was VERY late, and he made up for it with an unnatural pull. Given sufficient forward velocity, you're much better off pulling on a vertical caber, because you're putting the work to use on the thing that's needed most, raising the center of gravity of the caber. The forward velocity of the top of the caber causes it to actually turn. The first time you try it, you think, "Uhoh, this isn't going to work," but then you see the caber sail over and turn. That's the "AHA!" moment for most caber tossers. ------------- "We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby |
Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 10/14/09 at 3:39am
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Hans Lolkema is kinda strong too. |
Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/14/09 at 4:13am
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can't wait! ------------- Todd Reese "Max the Body to tap the Brain, deplete the Brain for Spiritual Dependance |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/14/09 at 4:49am
I can't help but read that as "LOL Kema!" ------------- |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 10/14/09 at 5:26am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDf2Xl6zxHg&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDf2Xl6zxHg&feature=relat ed if your strong enough. ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 10/14/09 at 5:28am
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Krazzzy Retard Strength ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: Lost-N-Idaho
Date Posted: 10/19/09 at 5:37pm
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Just to get a feel how many cabers should I turn in the offseason?? 100, 50....... my good buddy never touches a caber until he is at a HG. Two seasons ago I was on and it seemed very easy to turn the cabers. This past year I was crazy retarded and fought every caber, well not true my first game was actually very good then waited 2 months for next games and everything went to crap. ------------- Laughter is the shock absorber that eases the blows of life. |
Posted By: Coach Mac
Date Posted: 10/19/09 at 6:19pm
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IF you have distinct cabers ( long tapered) (6-inch differance in circumfrence= bottom too top) and a DEAD STICK = no taper ( 2-feet shorter than the tapered one ) these should be good or training. The tapered stick is a techical one. You can keep the big end backand begin the throw with pulling the small end---then plant and lift. The DEAD stick will require VELOCITY...get the big -end moving...plant the HIPS and SHRUG...! GOOD LUCK on your 12o ' clocks ------------- Have a GREAT Day ! Rob " Coach Mac " Mac Kay |