Box Squats

+1 On the freek. He has more natural talent in his rake hand than most do in there whole body.

http://www.nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=618 6&KW=Squats

http://www.nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=806 9&KW=bench+squat

http://www.nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=830 8&KW=bench+squat

http://www.nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=407 2&KW=box+squat&PN=0&TPN=2

Lots of info in these posts.  Kerry, are your high-box squats still touch and go style as opposed to the Westside "Box Squat" style?  Again, FWIW, if you are basically using the box as a depth marker or trigger and are not actually sitting on it, I refer to these as "Bench Squats" as opposed to "Box Squats" to distinguish the two, as these are quite different lifts.

 

And also, +1 to box squats vs. bench squats, BIG DIFFERENCE.

I like to box squat way down deep.  Why?  Because it is harder.  If I am going to look for something easy I will take up chess. 

A bench squats would seem pointless. Why not just do a regular squat? The box sqaut is realy not a sqaut its a sit back and pause then pull off the box not push off the box. Right?

Ok I see. I set my safety bars as my marker for all regular squats even Zerchers when the bar touches the safety I explode up same theory different method.

ok i am bored now  i have stirred up enough box squat debate...bottom line box squats help you get stronger.....so does regular squats..pick one do them..

on a serious note...I love to train,,,

i like trying new excercises..i box squat..band squat ..rev band squat..1 leg squat..stepups..ec,etc,   .....there is not one magic excercise.........I think if your lifting consistently and hard it will help your throws....

as i have always said  i never heard an athlete say...."darn i was just to strong today"...

no !!!!! but deadlifts can 

I heard only if you do alot of reps with heavy weight.

I would not include box squats in your training for sports outside of powerlifting.  Box squats have gotten popular over the past few years because of their use at the Westside Barbell club and their results in powerlifting.  But for other sports they pose some problems.

Box squats as they are practiced now are really for powerlifting, and more importantly, within the particular federations where the majority of those lifters compete.  There is no evidence that they have specific applications to other sports, on the contrary, they can be detrimental to your performance.

The general objection to box squats is there danger from spinal compression.  Lifters do usually do use some sort of pad on the box to soften the impact, but it only takes a moments lack of concentration or fatigue to bounce off the box and crack a sacral vertabrae.

But probably the best reason to not box squat is the fact that they will impede your performance.  As I pointed out before, box squatting as practiced today was really created for powerlifters.  Louie Simmons, who popularized box squatting points out that an advantage of box squatting is the fact that it teaches proper squat form.  You sit back and maintain a 90-degree at your knee, which does not travel forward.  The problem is, this ignores the mechanics of every other sport, in which the knee does travel forward, providing propulsion to the leg stroke.  So in this instance, you are creating a weakness.

The other problem is that box squats make the piriformis muscle muslce abnormally tight.  This will interfere with your ability to move your body in different directions.

Finally, there is nothing you can accomplish with box squats that you cannot accomplish with properly performed regular back squats or other forms of squats.  Read Ernie Frantz' 10 commandments of powerlifting, pavel tsatsouline's Power to the People or Beyond Bodybuilding and Fred Hatfield's Powerlifting: A Scientific Approach.  Any of them will explain why.

"I am Duncan McCallum, and I see a whole army of my countrymen, here in defiance of box-squatting. You've come to squat as free men... and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you squat?"

"Squat? No! We will leg press. And we will live."

"Aye, squat and you may die. Leg press, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the leg presses, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take...OUR SQUATS!

Just freaking squat...geez.  Front, back, ATG, box, Zerk...just do a few.  Rinse.  Repeat.

Quick to the point, to the point to fakin', cookin' MC's like a pound of bacon...

There are many people that believe that the application is not as direct as you think it is.  And they are very very good at this sport.  Sure there are basic tenants that are the same, but throwing a 56lb weight is hardly the same as throwing a 2k discus, and many high level throwers have proved that point on the highland games field.

I'm not sure of your highland games accomplishments (other than coming here and bumping threads that are months old), or if you even throw competatively, but I do know what my practical field research, along with several other top 20 Pros, shows.  There is CLEARLY more than one way to skin a cat, although with your posts here recently it is evident that you think you know exactly what the only right way is.

C. Smith wrote: There are many people that believe that the application is not as direct as you think it is.  And they are very very good at this sport.  Sure there are basic tenants that are the same, but throwing a 56lb weight is hardly the same as throwing a 2k discus, and many high level throwers have proved that point on the highland games field. I'm not sure of your highland games accomplishments (other than coming here and bumping threads that are months old), or if you even throw competatively, but I do know what my practical field research, along with several other top 20 Pros, shows.  There is CLEARLY more than one way to skin a cat, although with your posts here recently it is evident that you think you know exactly what the only right way is.

No, I only commented about box squats.  I don't believe I attempted to disparage you or your accomplishments.

jplu- dont you realize their is about a million variations of a box squat???  And they have been around a lot longer than powerlifting!!!

Pingleton

 

Thank you.