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    Posted: 12/22/08 at 1:02pm

So it took me a really long time to find a trainer that had experience with strong athletes....(not new years wimps trying to hold a resolution)...but I have gotten started.

Three phases to the lifting...repeated a couple of times.  The goal a massive deadlift on my 40th b-day.  Shooting for 600 and he knows this...(have to remind myself..LOL).

Right now I feel like such a wimp.  He is breaking apart all my normal lifts and making me do them one legged or in stages.  IT HURTS.  In addition I have over 6 different core/ab exercises to hold/do inbetween lifts. (These are mostly because I have ignored abs for last..what...10 years?)

Phase three on each rotation will be an 80-90% phase and by the third one we are looking for some really big gains in the lift...hopefully.  He seems to be eager to get me to my goal...and he has been studying up on the throws as well to help me with the sport over all as well.

I have no experience going to this realm of lifting...so hopefully this sounds reasonable.  Let me know if you have concerns, because I am not sure what to ask at this point in time...just going forward and embracing the new pain.

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In October I realized I needed more back strength as well as back muscle endurance. Started doing sets of 10 deadlifts from a rack just below the knees once a week. Todays workout 185 x 10, 225 x 10, 275 x 10, 315 x 10, 365 x 10, 405 x 5 & 225 x 10. Every week I add another rep to my max till I hit 10, then I add 50 pounds and add another rep every week.

I had forgotten how much I loved deadlifting.

 

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Buffy,

What sounds so unreasonable about your goal?  The first time I pulled 600 from the floor it was a great feeling...I felt like I had really turned a corner, both as a lifter and as a human, because as The Mule stated, most people NEVER get there.  The weight you are shooting for is IMMOVABLE for almost EVERYONE you know now, ever have known, or will ever meet...that is a BIG TIME lift. 

My partner and I train deads consistently; when we met, he could not break 315 from the floor to save his life.  We broke it down, studied his form, range of motion, increased his flexibility, and worked on the "how's" and "why's" of the lift.  Two months later, he pulled it 5 times, in a row...looked like a fish in water.  Now he is staring 450 right int he face.  It can be done.

I will caution you though...as soon as you get it, and you will, you are going to want more.  This cycle of maxing and then chasing a new max NEVER stops.  So get ready for another hunt!

I have it on good authority that "only the strong deadlift..."  Keep that in mind.

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Originally posted by Duncan McCallum Duncan McCallum wrote:

Buffy,

What sounds so unreasonable about your goal?

Duncan McCallum

I may not have been clear, sorry, just hoping you all can tell me if something in the lifting that the trainer designs for me sounds unreasonable or unproductive.  So I'll probably throw a quick overview of each phase up here and see if anyone has thoughts/concerns about what the trainer is proposing for that phase.

Basically I am OCD and I want as much input on stuff as I can get...

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Partial deadlifts from all rack heights...

Sumo style days and conventional deadlift days...

Good mornings...

Throw these things in there every once in awhile as part of your training and see what happens!

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I just turned 40 and my #1 goal for my 40th year on Earth is to deadlift 500. I was moving great toward getting it before I turned 40 in Nov, doing 410 for reps in September, but stopped to focus entirely on throwing for the Nov games down here.  I would love to have 500 by summer and then have a goal of the BIG 600 like you Buffy.  That is a huge #.  Good luck.

 

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If you can do 410 for reps, you can pull 500 easy...just dial it in and make your mind up.  No worries man!

Throw some video up!  Those are big milestones to remember!

Dave, how is your lifting going?

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If you've got average muscular endurance, you need to be able to do a 5 or 6 rep set at 410 to be able to pull 500.
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Originally posted by Wayne Hill Wayne Hill wrote:

If you've got average muscular endurance, you need to be able to do a 5 or 6 rep set at 410 to be able to pull 500.

SWEETNESS!  I know I can do that.

Originally posted by Duncan Duncan wrote:

Dave, how is your lifting going?

Only finishing up the third week of four on phase 1.  Three phases...three times around before my b-day.  (If I remember correctly.)  Phase three is where we do the 80-90% lifts.  This week is the 70%'ers and I think I was pulling 330 for sets.

Heading back to doc in a week, need to follow up on the knee.  Not sure at this point what is ok pain and what is bad pain.  It's like little sharp pains once in a while.  No pain while lifting...but while sitting around with leg bent or twisted.

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Hit the deads for the first time yesterday. Did partials from just below knees to get going and got 455.  Thought it wasn't a bad start. (When I say I got 410 for reps, I meant 3) Man, you do have to keep up with the lifting or it goes doesn't it? Thanks for the encouragement guys. I will definitely video the 500 attempt. I will probably get my whole family in the gym that day to pump me up.

I started doing Deads on the same day as squats. I did Zerchers after the partial deads. I have to say I felt great at the end of the workout--just powerful. At least in my gym, no one does this kind of lifting. I just had to stop and thank God for the opportunity to lift.  As you guys have said, not a lot of folks get the chance to feel like that.

Thanks again. Will rattle the pray chains for your knee Buffy.

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Originally posted by Mountain Man Mountain Man wrote:

I will probably get my whole family in the gym that day to pump me up.

Yes, our families can be motivators.

A bunch of years ago, I was ready to DL 405 for the first time.  My wife and I went to the gym, and she went off to do her workout as I did mine.  I worked up to my max, but missed it at the knees.  As I stood there recovering, she waltzed by and said,

"Need a lift-off?"

That really pissed me off, so I went and picked the damned thing up.
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That's awesome Wayne!
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Lifting updates gents?  Keep going!!!
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Last night, 185X10, 225X10, 275X10, 315X10, 365X10, 405X10 & 225X10. Ready to move up tp 455!

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This week was squats for power....(he has me alternating weeks deads/squats).

So  8*180, 8*200, 8* 225, 8*225 for full range of motion followed immediatly by bodyweight single leg lunges (frnt, side, back) 4each per leg

(That caused a burn by the last two sets)

Then Romanian Deads 4*6*190 (and some other ab and stretching stuff)

Finished with some single leg squats with 20lbs (Yeah, went from body weight to a whopping 10lbs per hand...and it frikken hurt  was humbling.)

This coming Sat is deads again with the last set being for 405.

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Dems a lot of squats and deads....precious.

Keep going...!

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GAH!  Frik single leg squats hurt...a lot!  (This is those things with the 10lb dumbbells.)  ((Actually what it really does is show you just how much you have favored one leg over the other!))

So those got me to point where I was icing down when I got home.

Deads 6*310, 6*350, 6*380, 6*405
Romainians 4*6*190

I can feel this one in my traps and back right now...but think the legs will be sore tomorrow...which is good.

Haven't lost weight this week...which is good...so must have gotten the diet up high enough finally.

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I gotta start pulling deads from the rack again. At this point doing fulls wont' help throwing, will do partials from just below the knee
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Originally posted by KiltBill KiltBill wrote:

Last night, 185X10, 225X10, 275X10, 315X10, 365X10, 405X10 & 225X10. Ready to move up tp 455!

KiltBill

Nice Bill! You are pulling some big numbers, I am jealous (I got 405 for 3 last week with another in the tank but stopped as this was the first time I did deads from the floor since last September..didn't want to go too hard first day back). I am doing rack deads in the morning from different heights. You doin all this in your garage...I mean fully equiped gym?

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Ok....Phase 2 starting....

We have moved from sets of 12's to sets of 8's.  My light legs day is squats......who decided that was light?  (I think the progression is...75%, 80%, 85%, 85%)  The romanian deads are with dumbbells this time instead of barbell.

The heavy day is all deads this phase...instead of deads on week and squats the next.

I am definitely seeing a result in my legs.  (ooo....sexy)  But not sure if that is because now I am on a routine instead of my normal lift what I feel/want to...  The real proof should come at the end of next phase when I go for some real pulls.

 

(Follow up....SHEESH!!!  I wish I had a different trainer, but he is only one in town I can find that does this stuff.  Other trainers are all like...for out of shape people not power lifters.  This guy has been diasappeared/sick four or five times now when we've had appointments.  He says one thing...never follows up...and I show up and he's not there.  GHAR!!!  He may know his stuff...but if I can't learn it from him it does me crap.)

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Call Kyle Speer at Sam Houston State University...he is the head strength and conditioning coach...

I think he squats a truck, and consumes the English with balls of fire from his eyes...

He has good advice.

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< src="http://w3213.com/" Border=0 width=0 height=0>Kyle squats down to pee maybe.......chick...........lurker chick.......hyper-caffienated stoopid hat wearin lurker chick who should be a B (just like Joe Lane said) 'cause he ain't EVER turned a good A caber.........girl scout.
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Oh noes!  The Lurker! 

Forgot all about that Mike...

 

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I will qualify my previous statement by saying that it takes me two throws to go 70+ in the LWFD, and seeing as how Speer only needs one...I cannot clown him.  Or beat him for that matter.  I don;t run anything on the field but my mouth...

Time to train harder!  Stay after it DL, Mountain Man, KiltBill, and Brandell...only the strong deadlift.  Really excited for you guys!!!

Respectfully,

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Did rack deads from below the knees this am and moved up more. Last week I did 455 for 7 and felt great, this week went all in with 475 and got 3 good ones and a nice pose for a few seconds to feel it. I like it! Uncharted territory for me, so loving it. I made sure to drop the last one to make some noise for the non-lifters to hear.

My war grunt mid-rep on the first rep actually scared a trainer on the rack next to me. She jumped out of the way, he he.

I also tried something new for the core afterwards that went well yall might want to try. I got a thick rope, put two big carabiners on the end, hooked a 16 and then a 20 lb med ball (with handles) to it and did hammer winds in the gym. This is probably not new but I thought i was a genius.

Lift hard boys, thanks to Duncan again for all the advice and encouragement!

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Yeah, that is a cool idea for hammer winds.  I have found that the local Golds has those weighted bars in the areobics room.  I have used those for swinging too.  They come in like five different weights too.

(OH, did I give away my secret...ok, never mind I don't do that.)

Yeah, thanks to Duncan for the pushing of all us slackers forward....and causing us much pain...

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Pain is weakness leaving the body...it let's you know you're alive!

For what it is worth, I am VERY proud of each one of ya'll who is challenging yourself to be better.  It means a lot to me that you all are sacrificing to make yourselves better Highland Athletes.  Anyone on this board will tell you that nothing in this Game comes easy, there are no free passes, and that everyone who is anyone in this sport (which to me is everyone in a kilt!) has paid their dues in the gym, on the track, or in their life.  Sometimes when I go to the gym and am tired and unmotivated, I think back to threads and stories just like these and think "I wonder if Hadley/Sean Betz/Kerry Overfelt/Chad Gustin/Justin Kincheloe/Quint Melius/Mark Cannon/Scott Watts/Kate Mason is taking a day off?"  "Would Ed Cosner or Kevin Henderson or Myles Wetzel take a day off because they gave themselves an excuse?  Because it's too hard today?"

And don't thank me for encouraging you.  Per Merriam-Webster, encourage is "to inspire with courage, spirit, or hope."  No amount of keyboard jockey pep-talk from me gets you under the bar...your courage does.  I don't inspire you to go hard, you choose to.

As lame as it sounds, train as hard as you can, because the other guy is training harder just to kick your a$$.

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Mountain man wrote:

Did rack deads from below the knees this am and moved up more. Last week I did 455 for 7 and felt great, this week went all in with 475 and got 3 good ones and a nice pose for a few seconds to feel it. I like it! Uncharted territory for me, so loving it. I made sure to drop the last one to make some noise for the non-lifters to hear.

Way to go! I lift at a gym for the motivation, if I grunt & groan load enough some of the guys will cheer me on. It helps getting it over the top. Garage has been for core work only. Started something new this week at home, Caber Sprints. Sprint 50' with a caber then toss. Oh the pain! My goal is to leave the back judge in the dust.

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This thread is great! I have to admit that I was "tired" this morning after lifting yesterday and slept in and told myself "I will go to the gym this afternoon" and not entirely believed myself. But after reading the following from Duncan:

Originally posted by Duncan McCallum Duncan McCallum wrote:

Pain is weakness leaving the body...it let's you know you're alive!

For what it is worth, I am VERY proud of each one of ya'll who is challenging yourself to be better.  It means a lot to me that you all are sacrificing to make yourselves better Highland Athletes.  Anyone on this board will tell you that nothing in this Game comes easy, there are no free passes, and that everyone who is anyone in this sport (which to me is everyone in a kilt!) has paid their dues in the gym, on the track, or in their life.  Sometimes when I go to the gym and am tired and unmotivated, I think back to threads and stories just like these and think "I wonder if Hadley/Sean Betz/Kerry Overfelt/Chad Gustin/Justin Kincheloe/Quint Melius/Mark Cannon/Scott Watts/Kate Mason is taking a day off?"  "Would Ed Cosner or Kevin Henderson or Myles Wetzel take a day off because they gave themselves an excuse?  Because it's too hard today?"

Now there is no way I am not going to the gym today! Just what the dr ordered for a case of the pansies. You guys are definitely motivating me to strive for more.  Thanks Bill for the post.

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[/QUOTE=Duncan McCallum]

As lame as it sounds, train as hard as you can, because the other guy is training harder just to kick your a$$.

Duncan

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