DB or BB presses?

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   Is it better to do DB push presses or BB? And I was thinking 1 arm db might be the way to go. Any opinions? 

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deaner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 12/20/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 29	Post Options Post Reply Quote deaner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: DB or BB presses? Posted: 8/25/05 at 12:32pm
	Is it better to do DB push presses or BB? And I was thinking 1 arm db might be the way to go. Any opinions?

Wayne Hill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2935	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wayne Hill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8/25/05 at 1:17pm
	BB is better for developing strength in the large prime movers (because the bar is easier to stabilize), but DB is better for developing the stabilizers. -Wayne
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M-BAAB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 3515	Post Options Post Reply Quote M-BAAB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8/25/05 at 1:35pm
	I like the single arm heavy dbell presses in season, especially done w/ a hip drop and pop(helps balance,explosion and timing- if you can pop a 90lb dbell up and down - you got some good timing and pop) .Off-season back to normal bar or dbell - both arms.

QuinnTheRed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 1/04/05 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote QuinnTheRed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8/26/05 at 9:27am
	I like the single arm DBell presses too for the reason Wayne said, it helps with the stabilizers. deaner, it was good to meet you in Whidbey Island. Mike (the big ugly guy in the Buchanan kilt)
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Silverback Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Plow Mule Joined: 8/29/04 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 4276	Post Options Post Reply Quote Silverback Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8/26/05 at 9:46am
	Love to stand with two heavy dumbells locked out overhead. Then leave one locked out and bring the other down and do a rep. When you have that one locked out, leave it up there and bring the other down to do a rep. So you are doing one at a time while holding both but instead of leaving the resting arm at the bottom, you leave it at the top. I call them Lyttle presses, after Dave Lyttle who showed them to me. You know the cat who tosses the stone 57 feet. Super good for cuff and stabalizers.

deaner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 12/20/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 29	Post Options Post Reply Quote deaner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8/26/05 at 11:38am
	Nice meeting you Mike. May see me again next year, and then look out buddy! I want to do at least one down there, maybe Enumclaw. I felt a bit out of my league, do you know where they might post the results from Whidbey?

QuinnTheRed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 1/04/05 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote QuinnTheRed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8/29/05 at 5:29am
	Well, Julie Riise (the AD) said, when she gets around to it, she will post them on their website. They haven't been posted as of yet, but here is the link to keep checking: http://www.wihg.org/ The same group of guys you competed with at Whidbey will be at Enumclaw and most of the other games around here. So when you come down you'll see a few familiar faces. See you next year, Mike
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Coach Mac Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 9/01/04 Status: Offline Points: 889	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coach Mac Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8/29/05 at 6:04am
	WHY do we go to the wt room...? You are almost ALWAYS trying to stimulate MORE motor units to fire...standing on a Swiss Ball and doing gymnastic manuvers or trying to DROP under a kettle-bell WILL not improve your ability to impart more FORCE and increase V-E-LO-C-I-T-Y to throw farther...!!! I showed Dave Lyttle the stabilizer press a hundered years ago when I coached him online...this was during a Volumne Phase...GOOD luck in your training !!!
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	Coach, David is one of my favorite coaches now, I am never around the guy and I don't learn something. Plus the guy knows how to have a good time.

jluidl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 3/15/05 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote jluidl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 9/05/05 at 11:11am
	As general rule the more three dimensional a lift can be the better, so by that logic DBs would be superior. DB presses will develop strength in the prime movers just as well as BBs, as long as the tension is comparable. At the same time DBs do force the stabilizers to work harder. Which one is better is probably and personal matter, try both and see how it goes. Remember that weight training is not sport specific. The goal is to get stronger, that's it. So to say one is better than the other as it applies to Highland Games does not really apply. I think the best overhead press is the BB Side Press as advocated by Pavel Tsatsouline. It is very difficult to perform, builds great pressing strength, great overall body strength and balance and is a health movement for the shoulder joint. It places the shoulder in an externally rotated position, which works all the small muscles of the rotary cuff, and requires heavy involvement from stabilizers, especially the armpit and upper back.

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	I 'm guessing you're talking the bent press. It is intense when the weights get up there and if you're in the gym people tend to stare.
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G-man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 8/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 457	Post Options Post Reply Quote G-man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 9/13/05 at 7:55am
	http://www.dieselcrew.com/videos/cobra.wmv OK I did the "cobra" with 50lbs dumbbells it was hard but not that bad......then I got up today.........my back and sides are killin me!!!!
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