Help please - choosing a strongman LOG!! :D

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Hello everyone! I was referred to this forum by a friend who said there are a number of experienced strongmen here who could give helpful suggestions on which strongman log to purchase.

 I am currently deciding between this one http://www.monsterringsandcages.com/STRONGMAN-EQUIPMENT/Steel-Log-p117.html 
and this one
 http://www.christiansfitnessfactory.com/index.php/vmchk/Olympic-Bars/CFF-Pro-Series-Executioner-Dual-Handle-Strongman-Log
The first one, the 12 incher, has the size and the proper handle distance, while the second one is a slightly smaller 10 incher and has normal handle distance. What caught my attention is that it also has a second slightly wider pair of handles - a pretty unique feature as far as logs go...! People train wide and close grip bench, so why not with a log press?! But on the other hand, while a press is still just a press, the 2" can make a big difference come competition time and a 12" log would leave less "doubt" (prepare for the"worst case scenario") since anything smaller than 12" in a contest would be relatively easier! It's somewhat besides the point but the 12" also has thicker 2" handles, which I really like.
I know you have to train specific to what you compete in (or in this case as close as possible since logs aren't standard) , but on the other hand, specified variety (like using a wider grip on the log) when done right is very beneficial, like with Westside. 
So would it ultimately be better to train with a specific sized 12" log, or a 10" with two different spaced handles which would give a little more "variation" in one area (width) but less specificity in another (actual log size)? 
One other consideration, I could theoretically get a swiss bar to train just the different possible grip distances, and still have the 12" log for the size factor and the usual hand space and not worry about it as far as the log goes - the swiss bar would be good / close enough... although I haven't found a swiss bar with a grip option of over 24", but I only looked at one swiss bar so I guess it doesn't really count! haha :P ...
I also left out which one I'm leaning towards, as well as the few other opinions I've already gotten from others so as not to influence your replies! ;)
I hope that wasn't too unclear or muddled! I'd be happy to answer any questions. 
Thank you much for your input!

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Iron3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11/19/12 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Iron3 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Help please - choosing a strongman LOG!! :D Posted: 11/19/12 at 9:42am
	Hello everyone! I was referred to this forum by a friend who said there are a number of experienced strongmen here who could give helpful suggestions on which strongman log to purchase. I am currently deciding between this one http://www.monsterringsandcages.com/STRONGMAN-EQUIPMENT/Steel-Log-p117.html and this one http://www.christiansfitnessfactory.com/index.php/vmchk/Olympic-Bars/CFF-Pro-Series-Executioner-Dual-Handle-Strongman-Log The first one, the 12 incher, has the size and the proper handle distance, while the second one is a slightly smaller 10 incher and has normal handle distance. What caught my attention is that it also has a second slightly wider pair of handles - a pretty unique feature as far as logs go...! People train wide and close grip bench, so why not with a log press?! But on the other hand, while a press is still just a press, the 2" can make a big difference come competition time and a 12" log would leave less "doubt" (prepare for the"worst case scenario") since anything smaller than 12" in a contest would be relatively easier! It's somewhat besides the point but the 12" also has thicker 2" handles, which I really like. I know you have to train specific to what you compete in (or in this case as close as possible since logs aren't standard) , but on the other hand, specified variety (like using a wider grip on the log) when done right is very beneficial, like with Westside. So would it ultimately be better to train with a specific sized 12" log, or a 10" with two different spaced handles which would give a little more "variation" in one area (width) but less specificity in another (actual log size)? One other consideration, I could theoretically get a swiss bar to train just the different possible grip distances, and still have the 12" log for the size factor and the usual hand space and not worry about it as far as the log goes - the swiss bar would be good / close enough... although I haven't found a swiss bar with a grip option of over 24", but I only looked at one swiss bar so I guess it doesn't really count! haha :P ... I also left out which one I'm leaning towards, as well as the few other opinions I've already gotten from others so as not to influence your replies! ;) I hope that wasn't too unclear or muddled! I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you much for your input!

rob meulenberg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 9/11/10 Status: Offline Points: 1316	Post Options Post Reply Quote rob meulenberg Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 11/19/12 at 12:24pm
	I would avoid the 10" log. 2" doesn't sound like that big of a deal, but it is. The 12" is the way to go. The 2 handle width thing is nice and all, but not needed. Especially if you have a swiss bar to train on. I would contact Mike Landrich (Landrich Power Systems on Facebook). I am not sure of his prices for logs, but his HG weights are at unbeatable prices and he is a highland gamer, so you can support one of us (but I would assume it would be cheaper than the one you listed).
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JSiau10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 2/14/11 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 744	Post Options Post Reply Quote JSiau10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/19/12 at 1:47pm
	although I have no experience in Strongman, personally I would go with the second one. It has both handle options offering a little versatility.
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thegnome Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 9/22/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote thegnome Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/20/12 at 7:10am
	Rob is right, get ahold of Mike Landrich. 12" logs are much harder, and the effect is multiplied if you are only 5'7"..... Mike had a 14"log in one of his contests and it made me feel like I was bending over backwards.
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Jim Glover Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10/18/11 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 588	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jim Glover Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/20/12 at 7:15am
	12" logs are horrible.
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Speer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 5/04/12 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 97	Post Options Post Reply Quote Speer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/27/12 at 2:16pm
	Rogue Fitness (awesome build quality, made in USA) offers two 10" models. Not persuading you, just throwing these out there for price comparison. http://www.roguefitness.com/log-bar.php http://www.roguefitness.com/slaters-true-logs-206.php

JReed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 2/03/09 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote JReed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/27/12 at 3:26pm
	Check out Pitbull Strongman. Great quality and value on all sorts of equipment. Email Alan Benninga at pitbullk9@yahoo.com