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Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

Carlos- put a bottle of your favorite rye JUST below target distance - wallah! PR!

I dunno Mike, I suspect the outcome there might just be the tragic loss of a good bottle of rye. I can hear the wailing now - "God, nooooooo! She was only six years old!" Cry

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records are made to be broken LATER! you put a good bottle o' rye out there and i'm throwin' short!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thegnome Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/28/07 at 12:57pm
I'm telling you this rock is definately throwable.  I'll bet there would be alot of guys getting close to 12 to 15 with it.  It's got a nice roundness to it with one end that must have been broken off.  I'll bet it was rolling around in those rapids for centuries.
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Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

northsider - as Kevin's role model and stone of strength thrower extrodinare(sp) - best way to toss big rox is to hold (right handers) it on right shoulder w. right hand just under the back end and left hand just under the front. Turn/twist shoulders as far back to right as possible. Using a 10 foot or so run up , you want to land/hop in a braemar type stance - LEFT arm and leg LIFT UP- Right arm and leg PUSH OUT. NO legs = no distance. Make sure you land about a foot or so from toe board so you can lift/push foward and not foul. No height = no distance. ..........Kevin - nyaaaaaa nananannaner.....  

Sounds like a solid way to toss. Exactly what I was looking for. Do you, or anyone else for the matter, ever practice this crazy event? In my experience, this event seems like something that I could practice, but never really get around to doing it, mainly because its a stupid heavy rock...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M-BAAB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/29/07 at 7:23am
I play w. it a coupla times a month -either just throw it like above or do stone front squat pushpress - hold it in hands only just above chest - do 5 deep front squats and last one explode up into a push press finish or just do singles - clean it up off ground and squat and press - great for core /overall body work. Recommended.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote McSanta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/30/07 at 6:49am
For those putting on a festival or maybe considering contesting a two handed super heavy stone throw, the following gives a better background of two handed stone throws, some information on festival which contest this event to demonstrate that the stone of strength, super heavy stone, or Steinstossen  seems to be a favorite at many festivals around the world. (Some of the links have pictures of the event and there is always crowds watching it)

I have found documentation of the Irish, Germans, and Swiss performing two handed stone throws as a sporting event. Since the Irish perform this event, there is justification of doing this event at a Celtic Festival (I am sure there is similar info for scottish events).

The Swiss & Germans call it Steinstossen. The Irish call it the Super Heavy Stone Put (8 stones = 112lb)

The Irish allow a lozenge shaped stone or metal throwing instrument whereas all others seem to only allow stones.  It appears in all cases the throw can be made either as a push from the chest or over head or any other way just so long as the thrower is facing the landing area.

IRISH

A picture of the Irish super heavy implement:  
 

Much of the info I have on the Irish throw is from the Irish Throwing clubs events webpage which is no longer available.  However the record apparently is 3.81 meters or 18' for a 8 stone/112lb implement

GERMAN

Steinstossen literally translate to stone push. It however does not have to be the lighter weights mentioned in the prior post. Those lighter weights probably come from a German throwing Triathlon called Rasenfraftsport. Never the less, the Germans/Bavarians do have a tradition of doing two handed heavy stone throws. 

German Rasenfraftsport

Rasenkraftsport is a German throwing triathlon consisting of a weight throw, wire hammer throw, and a brick throw

per Wikipedia:
In 1860, Steinstossen was introduced as a track-and-field discipline in Germany, retaining the name in spite of the stone being replaced by a 15 kg block of iron.

From Rasenfraftsport rules:
The term when used in The Rasenkraftsport, refers to a one handed put of a brick made of metal weighing 15kg (33lb) and about 6.5 in long, 3.5 in wide, and 5 in. thick.

Other German Steinstossen

German American Festival, Oregon Ohio - run a challenge event Steinstossen

Men - 138#, Record 14'-4"
Women - 75#, record 10'-10"

Any Ohioan Highland Games throwers ever been to this event?

SWISS

The Steinstossen occurs at the famous Swiss festival called the Unspunnen Festival which occurs every 11 years and at the Swiss Federal Wrestling and Cow Herding Festival has an annual (?) event (and I am sure at others)

The Unspunnen Festival has a world champion in this event using the Unspunnen stone which has been stolen a few times - another famous stone.  From the pictures, it appears the Swiss Wrestling and Cow Herding Festival uses that same stone. 

 

The following picture is from http://history.swissroots.org/185.0.html

 

which lists the record for the throw of the 83.5 kg (184 lbs) stone as 3.61m or 11'-10"


 

In addition, the Ohio Swiss festival contests the Steinstossen which is "a main attraction since 1956.  It is truly a sight to behold, as men hoist a 138-pound stone boulder far above their heads and hurl it great distances.   This feat is a true test of strength and brawn as they struggle to lift the heavy mass without dropping it. The women's com­petition uses a 95-pound boulder"

I could not find any records for this event.

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Andrew, it would be cool to see the rock come east this season, still sounds like fun (note to self: more push presses)  However, I just saw the "Hornussen" game in some of those festival pics.  What...The... ?  

 I guess I shouldn't say anything about sheaf toss anymore...

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That is great information.  It helps me stand by my one hundred dollar offer to anyone and everyone that can throw a 100# stone 15' standing still (Braemar style).
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Jayster - I think there's a guy impersonating you at www.jaylyttle.com

He looks like you, but claims to be 6'.  Are you related to him?

C'mon Josh don't you remember Jay looking you square in the chest and swearing he was 6'?

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Originally posted by The Jayster The Jayster wrote:

and i'm throwin' short!!!

At this point, I gotta believe you're either testing to see if I'm reading this, or you're just teeing them up for me on purpose....

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andrew great story....

saw this stone back in 2001 under a waterfall-during a noreaster.it was extremly round(for a natural stone) and looked to be  a nice throwable size(100-125)...always coveted it and myself and the MWR-even tried to grab it one day..stream current was too much and to cold...well low and behold 2 yrs later I am with my kids fishing and I spot it downstream about 55 yards ..only problem if I get it I can only get it up a 45 degree hill or a sheer cliff....tell the misses ok let me try this..I'lll be back in an hour..head to the stream..hike down the hill with a canvas sack....get the stone(fall knee deep into water 2X)it is a bit heavier than originally thought(was 187lbs!)and a lot smoother than I thought..get it up to my belly get it ashore and while  I was laready spent with the battle put it in the sack...guess what sack broke right away...went back up hill to car got a rope and a blanket,,,tried a mesh type note..slipped...put balnket around it -couldn't get it going..now 2+ hours into it was not to be deafeated by this mere pebble..start pushing it up hill...evry few feet is met witha roll back past where I started...lower back is cramping..fingers hurt..and the next thing I know a police spotlight is shining down the hill at me telling me what I am doing..I yell get the MWR here he will explain(MWR is a old training partner-now pro strongman and a cop in the same dept that is blinding me...google Gerard Benderoth to see pick's and video of the mWR)he wants to see ID..I say I aint coming up the hill without the stone...couple of chuckles later he says Gerard is on the radio and says Wood your a wimp and I bet you a case of MOlson XXX you can't get trhat stone up the hill in 15 minutes...guess what...pushed..pulled and made it up the hill(what I thought was 5-10 minutes was actually 45 minutes later)..was met by 4 laughing Haverstaw cops who couldn't believe this mud covered,sweat soaked, human was requesting some beer..well loaded the stone and left...went home took dirty clothes off and passed out..it was a hell of a job and took 4 + hours but she was mine!!never threw her and my new traing partner took it as a conditioning rock

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Jeez, that is a great story, Dan.

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Dan that story kicks ass.

Re: the idiot stone. Just get pissed off and f**kin kill that thing. Launch it into the sky with all your rage. Don't think! This event is pure because it is still a mystery... no one knows what to do with it! It requires instinct, not knowledge. Don't go sullying this event with technique! It is what it is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrainSmasher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/05/07 at 9:14am
Originally posted by Roy Bogue Roy Bogue wrote:

That is great information.  It helps me stand by my one
hundred dollar offer to anyone and everyone that can throw a 100# stone
15' standing still (Braemar style).

Seems like a safe enough bet, but If I know Northsider he's trying to dig up a
100# stone as we speak... Personally I am useless without a good running
start, but I'll give it a shot anyway.
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D Wood,  great story !
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