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Easy session to get back in the groove.
 
Mens Press- 2x5x65, 2x5x85, 3x5x105
DL- 2x5x145, 2x5x205, 3x5x245
DB Rows, Push press and hang cleans.
 
The puppy is doing well and slowly taking over the household. He has been named 'Angus'. Daughter thought it fitting since we got him at the games. My wife did mention that he probably has siblings that are still available just in case we wanted another. Aw crap....
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No time to lift, too much life happening. Award and graduation ceremonies. Youngest daughter graduated high school and will get her Associates degree on Saturday. Oldest daughter got her Bachelors (@20) and got her moved back home. I did manage to get out and throw on Sunday after mowing the lawn.
 
Hammer and caber.
Hammer felt really good, long and loose, all throws were at or beyond my practice PR cone without going 100%. Tryed a few 3 winds but no difference in distance. I have finally found a glove that works for throwing hammers though. Cheap cloth nitrile coated Atlas glove, one size too small with a little spray glue. Found them at Costco so I have plenty now.
Caber - I suck at the caber. Same old story. Pick and control easy, simply can't get the timing down. Will watch more video and try to video myself.
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6/11/12

Mens press - 1x5x65, 1x5x85, 1x3x100, 1x5x110, 1x5x125,x1x5x140

DL - 1x5x160, 1x5x200, 1x3x235, 1x5x255, 1x5x295, 1x5x335
 
Push press, Power clean 3x5x115
 
Everything was heavy but it felt good. Over 2 weeks since last heavy(er) session. Plenty of time before next comp for practice.
Things to focus on.
Hook grip on HWD/LWD - With the recent conversations in the forum and after my less than graceful belly flop on the field in B'ham while warming up with HWD I think this may help me out a lot. OK, so the handle was wet and my foot stuck. Did some of the DLs last night with hook grip.
 
Sheaf - Making a new fork. Found an old 3 tine to clean up. Hopefully have it ready and dailed in by Skagit games. After using one at B'ham made by Kel Mulrey (thanks Bret Lathrop), there is such a difference in feel and I had a lot more height (too bad straight up and down doesn't work though).
 
Caber - This has got to change. Advise always welcome.
 
Thinking about making boot blades.
 
Hopefully the weather holds today for throws tonight.
 
 
 
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(too bad straight up and down doesn't work though). 


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Originally posted by jsully jsully wrote:

0 is the lowest point of the orbit. this SHOULD be in line with the side your right leg (if you're a right handed thrower).  if I'm standing dead behind you looking forward and you just completed your first turn so you're standing perpendicular to the throwing area, zero should be about where your knee is. if it's to the right, you should try to fix it some. you want the low point as close to your right leg as possible so you get the longest sprint and push on the implement as possible. (from Greg Yorks log)
 
So this started to make a lot more sense after watching some jsully video with it fresh in my head. Threw LW last night and I'm def hitting 0 @ 3:00 on the cast. Then I forgot how long to wait... Will have to video to find where the other points are. Tried hook grip on several throws, not too bad and my thumb doesn't hurt. I do find it harder to release with a glove and spray glue. Will experiment next time.
Threw stones as well and figured out something on the placement. Pretty sure I've been placing it too far back on my neck and I wasn't getting my thumb in a good spot (too many jokes, not enough time). Made some significant gain on the distance after 10-15 throws with a 16 lb. Got a bigger stone, still worked. Gained at least 5-8' on the 19 lb.
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get that zero as close to 6:00 as possible.
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Originally posted by jsully jsully wrote:

get that zero as close to 6:00 as possible.
 
I thought the 0 on the cast should be at 3:00 and the following were at 6:00 (I probably got it wrong again). My cast was at 3:00 and I know the next 2 were towards the back but I will need to video to find out where.
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Originally posted by jsully jsully wrote:

get that zero as close to 6:00 as possible.
 
I thought the 0 on the cast should be at 3:00 and the following were at 6:00 (I probably got it wrong again). My cast was at 3:00 and I know the next 2 were towards the back but I will need to video to find out where.
 
everyone has different versions of the clock, maybe this is my mistake.
 
When I visualize the clock, I'm looking straight down at the trig area, like it's on the desk in front of me and I'm looking down on it. Now, where YOU are, is the clock mechanism. When facing the throwing area, dead behind you is 6:00. If you were to stand with your arms up and out to your sides, your right arm would be 3:00, your left arm would be 9:00 and looking straight out into the field is 12:00.
 
With that said, I don't know what 3:00 you're referring to. As discussed, zero is the lowest point in the orbit, or pendulum when it's behind you for the cast. As the weight is traveling to the left, behind you, the zero needs to be 6:00 and is typically just to the left of your right leg. Now, the trick is to keep that zero as close to possible to 6:00 as it's headed back to the right again for the cast. What I have to do is sink down a bit early which sets my 0 between 6:00 and 5:30. From there I just guide it and wait for it to get to 12:00-12:30 before I make my turn. Quick turn, drive to zero, sprint, quick turn, drive to zero, explode off that left leg.
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that's my visualization of the clock. If your low point is at 3:00, then youre high point is going to bover by 10:00 and you're going to be fighting the entire throw to get your low point to 6:00. It's much easier to set it out of the back. Rather than trying to change the orbit mid-throw. It can be done, but regardless, it's going to sacrifice distance. Maybe not a lot, but it will affect it some. Hope that all makese sense. I'll be throwing lwfd today, I'll try to get video from the back.
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Yep, I got it wrong. There's a shocker. Went back and watched the video again and the one from April and saw where I screwed it up. Maybe try again tomorrow night. Thanks for the assist... and the drawing.
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BB complexes - DL, rows, hangclean, press, squat. 8x5x75
 
Box jumps, BW stuff pullups, pushups etc....
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Originally posted by Andrew Akins Andrew Akins wrote:

Originally posted by jsully jsully wrote:

get that zero as close to 6:00 as possible.
 
I thought the 0 on the cast should be at 3:00 and the following were at 6:00 (I probably got it wrong again). My cast was at 3:00 and I know the next 2 were towards the back but I will need to video to find out where.
 
everyone has different versions of the clock, maybe this is my mistake.
 
When I visualize the clock, I'm looking straight down at the trig area, like it's on the desk in front of me and I'm looking down on it. Now, where YOU are, is the clock mechanism. When facing the throwing area, dead behind you is 6:00. If you were to stand with your arms up and out to your sides, your right arm would be 3:00, your left arm would be 9:00 and looking straight out into the field is 12:00.
 
With that said, I don't know what 3:00 you're referring to. As discussed, zero is the lowest point in the orbit, or pendulum when it's behind you for the cast. As the weight is traveling to the left, behind you, the zero needs to be 6:00 and is typically just to the left of your right leg. Now, the trick is to keep that zero as close to possible to 6:00 as it's headed back to the right again for the cast. What I have to do is sink down a bit early which sets my 0 between 6:00 and 5:30. From there I just guide it and wait for it to get to 12:00-12:30 before I make my turn. Quick turn, drive to zero, sprint, quick turn, drive to zero, explode off that left leg.
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|       9(you)3
|______6
 
that's my visualization of the clock. If your low point is at 3:00, then youre high point is going to bover by 10:00 and you're going to be fighting the entire throw to get your low point to 6:00. It's much easier to set it out of the back. Rather than trying to change the orbit mid-throw. It can be done, but regardless, it's going to sacrifice distance. Maybe not a lot, but it will affect it some. Hope that all makese sense. I'll be throwing lwfd today, I'll try to get video from the back.
 
OK, way better. Took a handful of easy throws last night and concentrated on hitting 6:00. The first will take some getting used to but I was making it work. The others just kind of fell in line. Could def feel a difference, wasn't trying to control the weight as much as just keeping it in the groove. Was hitting the same distances as the night before without nearly as much effort and then dropped a couple 2'+ farther than practice PR.
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and then dropped a couple 2'+ farther than practice PR.
 
YESSSS!! This I like to hear!!
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YESSSS!! This I like to hear!!
 
Me too! Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. I will def keep working on it.
 
While your being so generous with the knowledge, what pointers could you give me on hammers?
Last years PR on LH was 83ish. Knocked that out with a 93'11" two weeks ago and would like to hit 100' by the end of season. Felt like I had it in me but was fairly gassed by that time of day. My throws have been consistantly increasing every month. I'm working on a set of blades to try and was wondering how much it will change the throw. Been getting long and loose, although I still hit the ground occasionally. Still got 88' doing it though.
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Bench - 1x5x90, 1x5x110, 1x3x130, 1x5x145, 1x5x165, 1x5x185
Squat - 1x5x115, 1x5x145, 1x5x180, 1x3x215, 1x5x230, 1x5x265, 1x5x300
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got a video of hammer?
 
biggest thing is to relax your upper body and let your hips move the ball. When the ball is moving to your left, drive your hips forward and to the right (I always think, drive right knee).. when the ball is moving to my right (behind me) I sink my hips hard..
 
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Originally posted by jsully jsully wrote:

got a video of hammer?
 
biggest thing is to relax your upper body and let your hips move the ball. When the ball is moving to your left, drive your hips forward and to the right (I always think, drive right knee).. when the ball is moving to my right (behind me) I sink my hips hard..
 
 
No video. Still haven't made the leap. Will try to work on this tonight though (including the video).
 
6/18/12
 
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Mr Pockoski commented on a post in Craig Smiths log when I asked a question about hammers. I did what he said yesterday and it made a huge difference:
 
He said that on the very first wind, as the ball is behind me and going to my right, push my hips back and sink down (like I'm sitting almost). He said this allows you to open your hips and allow them to take over because it's much more natural to sit back and down than it is to push your hips and knees over your toes. After a handful of these I could feel it. No longer did I have 5 mental cues. I pushed my hips back and they took over, back->forth->back->forth. It was almost automatic like they knew exactly what to do. The only thing I had to think about then was turning my upper body to catch the hammer and focus on making it faster. My very last throw of the day was 96' with the heavy hammer. Probably 20+ throws in by that point.
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Mr Pockoski commented on a post in Craig Smiths log when I asked a question about hammers. I did what he said yesterday and it made a huge difference:
 
He said that on the very first wind, as the ball is behind me and going to my right, push my hips back and sink down (like I'm sitting almost). He said this allows you to open your hips and allow them to take over because it's much more natural to sit back and down than it is to push your hips and knees over your toes. After a handful of these I could feel it. No longer did I have 5 mental cues. I pushed my hips back and they took over, back->forth->back->forth. It was almost automatic like they knew exactly what to do. The only thing I had to think about then was turning my upper body to catch the hammer and focus on making it faster. My very last throw of the day was 96' with the heavy hammer. Probably 20+ throws in by that point.
 
Thanks Jake, worked on this Tuesday night and it def feels more natural.
Also tried some boot blades but I'm pretty sure they are way too stiff. A buddy in the machine shop down the hall from me made them and used 1/4" material. Getting another set out of 1/8" to try. Also threw stones and played with the spin. It's still doesn't feel right but the throws are going much farther. About where I would throw it standing. Will keep gliding for now.
 
6/20/12
 
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Also tried some boot blades but I'm pretty sure they are way too stiff. A buddy in the machine shop down the hall from me made them and used 1/4" material. Getting another set out of 1/8" to try.
 
still too thick imo..
 
i use cheap lawnmower blades from home depot. chop off one side and use the holes that are already there.
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still too thick imo..
 
i use cheap lawnmower blades from home depot. chop off one side and use the holes that are already there.
 
I thought they might be as well but he showed me the metal and it has good flexibility without being noodley, although it didn't seem to be as stiff as a mower blade.... and it's free so that's a bonus.
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Womens press - 1x5x90, 1x5x110, 1x3x130, 1x3x155, 1x3x175, 1x3x195
Squats - 1x5x75, 1x5x145, 1x5x180, 1x3x215, 1x3x250, 1x3x280, 1x3x320
 
 
6/26/12
 
Mens press 1x5x65, 1x5x85, 1x3x100, 1x3x115, 1x3x135, 1x3x155
DL - 1x5x160, 1x5x200, 1x3x235, 1x3x275, 1x3x315, 1x3x355
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Finished the new fork over the weekend (still needs some personal touches on it) and tried it out, NICE! Smooth release, comfortable in the hand. Will try to make/find something to throw over so I can work on it this weekend and dail it in.
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BB complexes - DL, rows, hangclean, press, squat. 10x5x80
 
Box jumps, Weighted pushups, pullups. I realized that just a few months ago I couldn't do a single pull up much less a weighted pull up, now I can spell it.
 
6/28/12
 
Took a few throws with stones and LWD.
Stones are getting better, I guess. Average distance, nothing special. My hand position is way better and the stone doesn't roll off my fingers at all. It still needs work.
Only got about 10 throws on LWD but I was happy with them. Focused on hitting 0 @ 6:00 on the cast. I can def feel it when I do as the weight doesn't pull through (smooth) the rest of the throw and I am able to get more power into the release. Would've kept at it but a mosquito swarm found me and decided to start feeding.
 
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Womens press - 1x5x90, 1x5x110, 1x3x130, 1x3x155, 1x3x175, 1x5x195, 1x2x195
Squats - 1x5x75, 1x5x145, 1x5x180, 1x3x215, 1x3x250, 1x3x280, 1x3x320
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Flipped a tire in the yard for a bit.
 
7/1/12
Finished my boot blades and tried them out Sunday. Took a few winds with no release to get the feel of pushing my hips back. After ~ 10 throws i really started getting the hip drop but was not hitting a good low point on the wind. @ 15 it started feeling better and was getting some decent distance. @ 20 to 25 throws was hitting around practice PR distance. The last 3 throws were 2-3' past practice PR and really felt like I was getting it so I stopped there. Pretty happy with the progress without throwing 100%.
Set a bar for sheaf and worked on keeping my throws on the same path. Started with several throws straight off the ground (no wind up). Took about 10 full throws with good height and good path. Really like the new fork.
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Nice hammer and stone practice.
Getting consistant distance using the blades. 2 winds are great, good distance and feel. Every time I try 3 winds my low point drifts too far left and I t-rex the release. Even with the t-rex arms it goes good distance (2-3' less) so if I can work it out I should gain quite a bit. Wondering if adjusting my foot placement would help.
Trying out the spin again and it's getting better. About the same distance as glide without feeling quite so unnatural. Def getting better on braemar. Focus was hitting proper position for the release.
 
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BB complexes - DL, rows, hangclean, press, squat. 12x5x80
 
Weighted pushups, pullups.
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7/6/12

Easy LWD and sheaf practice. Nothing special.
Took very few hammer throws. Coming together nicely with the blades.
 
7/7/12
Womens press - 1x5x90, 1x5x110, 1x3x130, 1x5x165, 1x3x185, 1x2x210
Squats - 1x5x75, 1x5x145, 1x5x180, 1x3x215, 5x5x250 knees werent agreeable to going heavier than the 250.
Close grip bench 5x10x130
Flipped a tire in the yard for a bit.
 
7/10/12
 
LWD x 10, just easy tosses.
Hammer with blades x 10
Deload
Mens press - 1x5x65, 1x5x85, 3x5x100
DL - 1x5x175, 1x5x195, 3x5x215
 
 
Try another easy session tonight and then just looking forward to Skagit games this weekend. This will be my first comp in Masters so I'm not expecting too much although I would like to come away with a PR or two.
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OStone x10
Hammer - just a few easy winds, no release.
Bench - 1x5x90, 1x5x110, 3x5x130
Done.
 
On a side note, Seattle Sounders earned their way into a 4th straight US Open Cup final. Sounders 4, Chivas 1. Go Sounders.
 
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See you Saturday, Andrew.   Having just celebrated the Fourth, my oohs and ahhs are in good shape and ready for your hammer PRs!

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