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    Posted: 3/26/05 at 4:27am

Hey-

I heard youse guys telling Dave "Skinny" Carl about packing on the weight. And I can enforce that idea with this little story.

I'm proud to say that when I got started throw'n, I put on 30 pounds (without a change in my waist size) from the excitement, hard training, protein, ... and the guinness. And I improved during that time in every event. Since then I've cut back down to maintain my weight at 197lb so that I can compete in the middleweight division, but I know that your body weight can help you in this sport if you manage it properly.

Unfortunately, now that I'm over the hill my legs seem to be getting shorter and heavier, ... and I'm rounder at the beltline. What gives? Is it the gravity? What goes up, ... and all that?

Anyway, Dave ... learn to eat eggs. Crack 4 of em into a glass, add a little milk, stir with a fork and chug'em down every morning... but be sure to drink it near the sink. It'll get your day started with the best possible protein and then you've gotta get as much done as possible to make it work for you the rest of the day.

Trust me on this one, ... if you can get past the gag reflex,

-EggHead    



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the health dept will have you for lunch after this post!  4 raw eggs?  That could get very nasty in a hurry. 
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Egghead - 3 in the shake most mornings -it'll get 'er done!
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Just scramble the damn things and eat them. Takes about 5 min
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Heat knocks hell out of nutritional content - raw is good. You know, like an Oklahoma prom queen.
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... but be sure to drink it near the sink

 

Yeah, and keep a garbage can handy for a while until you get used to the taste.  A buddy and I started doing this in 10th grade to bulk up, I got big, he got salmonella.  Just watch out for the shells, that's what usually gets people sick

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave Carl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 3/26/05 at 10:37am

  Rockhound/Egghead and others,

  I'll give it a shot.  A Fear Factor contestant, I'm not.  I like the idea of cooking and eliminating salmonella.  I had a parasite once, I wouldn't like to experience anything like that again.

  -Thanks, Dave "Tapeworm" Carl



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Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

Heat knocks hell out of nutritional content - raw is good. You know, like an Oklahoma prom queen.


I thought that was what Bob Stoops says every year about Mac Brown.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim Pinkerton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 3/26/05 at 12:36pm

For those of you that are "uneasy" about the salmonella try this:

http://www.lanaseggwhites.com/

Or just purchase some basic protein powder where the main components are egg and milk protein.  Every issue of Milo comes with an ad for just that. It's call Just Protein...I think. 

Just another alternative

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Tim-

But ya don't get that FearFactor effect from some powder in a bag.

Com'on go ahead, you can do it. Don't be a sissy. You wuss. Chug, Chug, Chug, Chug.  Atta boy!

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raw eggs!!! eeewwwwww, cook em! with salsa! tobasco sauce! I guess you could do that with raw hamburger also...or better yet just go to a farm and bite a pig!

Dont forget the supplements!!!

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Come on Dave - you live a half hour from Krispy Kreme - they beat eating cupcakes.  Some milk and a dozen Krispy Kreme doughnuts and in no time you'll be huge.
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Good link Tim.  Kevin...I am going to LMAO the day we read somone post you are locked away in some hospital crapping your guts out 
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I was curious about what the actual risk of salmonella is from eggs, so I looked it up:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/salment_g.htm

"Although most infected hens have been found in the northeastern United States, the infection also occurs in hens in other areas of the country. In the Northeast, approximately one in 10,000 eggs may be internally contaminated. In other parts of the United States, contaminated eggs appear less common. Only a small number of hens seem to be infected at any given time, and an infected hen can lay many normal eggs while only occasionally laying an egg contaminated with the Salmonella bacterium."

OK, so the probability that a given egg has salmonella is 1/10,000 or less (depending on where you live).  If you eat something like 500 eggs a year (about what I eat), the probability of encountering an egg with salmonella is about 5% in a given year.  That is neither a very high probability nor a very low probability.  Whether or not you take that risk is up to you.

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Dude it's called oatmeal with protein powder mixed in...

2 cups of oatmeal and 35-50g of protein!!!!

You crap like a champ!!!!

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MEAT!!!!  You are alive!  And the first thing I hear about you in months is a post about dropping the kids off at the pool.  You are the man. 
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I am shocked at our group.   They come in a dozen for a reason.  Why eat 3 or 4 and break up the set? 

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Oatmeal, chocolate protein powder and peanut butter mixed together.  Yum.  That'll put some More pudding on the weight ...
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Any ideas for gaining weight for those who are lactose
intolerant and tend to have boughts of rapid weight loss
inducing craps?
I have been stuck at 210 for about a year. Although, before the
crap issue that effects me now, I was at 220 and dropped to
180 (in a month - thank you swollen intestines!)
I train like a mad man. Hit the gym. All that.
But, dietarily, I can not take as many chances as my fellow raw-
egg eating throwers.
So, give me some advice on what to eat to gain good bulking
protein, that is easy to digest? Is my only option chicken?

Dave — I remember in my first games at Alma, there was some
really skinny guy (I think his name was Joel). He looked more
like a marathon runner than a highland games athlete. But,
anyway, he had perfect technique in all of the events and
kicked the crap out of some of the biggest guys on the field. I
don't buy the arguement about bulk being the main thing in this
sport. Technique comes first...bulk is only a nice add on after
that.
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How lactose intolerant are you?  This is a serious question.  Any decent whey protein should contain a negligible quantity of lactose, and shouldn't bother most people who are lactose intolerant.  Then again, a friend of mine was so lactose intolerant he couldn't even eat anything made with whey (like salad dressings, even), so there clearly are exceptions.

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Again let me suggest the previous link.  Eggs have no lactose in them. 

Milk proteins, however, are whey and casein.  The whey is absorbed quickly while the casein is absorbed slowly.  The benefit to drinking both at the same time is that you maintain a better and longer nitrogen balance.  There is great benefit to this for those that are trying to put on weight.  I have had good success with a product called Grow.  It contains milk proteins but most (maybe all) of those that I know have little or no tolerance problems with it.  A company called Biotest makes it.  Type the name in to Google and you should find it.  If you need the link let me know.

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My tolerance level is funny. sometimes I can have a glass of
milk or a bit of cheese, others, don't even think about it. I have
tried Whey and the results were not desirable (think brown
explosion). I get the same result after using creatine. I will look
into this Grow. Perhaps small amounts will have desirable
effects.
In the meantime, I will continue what I have been doing. Eating
tons of meat and potatoes, mixed with desserts made with soy
milk (why they hell do they call it soy milk? Shouldn't it be
called soy juice?) Chasers of Boost are great too...the high
protein one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote inkasquinka Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 3/28/05 at 4:10pm

How do they milk a soy bean?? How can they tell a girl soy bean from a boy!

I have to cut out the milk but I do take calcium citrate and a half a flacker of cow a day!

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McBain,
It is common knowledge that most people who live in the
northern part of lower Michigan suffer from some type of
digestive disorder. I believe that is why you told me you carried
a wide assortment of corks (think brown explosion) to each
competition.
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You are correct. It's from all the whiskey we drink to get us
through the winters. It reeks havoc on the intestines.
The cork sizes depend on the spincter's mood that day. The
wife let's me know which one to use. If she says, "You are a
asshole." I use the mid sized one. If she says, "GOD DAMMIT,
YOU &#%@%$ ASSHOLE." I need a large for the day.
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Originally posted by Silverback Silverback wrote:

I am shocked at our group.   They come in a dozen for a reason.  Why eat 3 or 4 and break up the set? 

My man!  I couldn't agree more!!  You all are talking about gaining weight, then follow it up with 3-4 eggs.  Many a morning I cook the dozen. 

Lemme make it really easy, if you want to gain weight, eat....MORE.

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Oh yea, and speaking of, how bout the new breakfast sandwich at BK.  Mmmmmmm.....
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You know, I don't get the uproar over that.  The 730 calories in that meal would be appropriate for any active man over about 160 lbs.  This is completely consistent with the target customer, young men in physically active jobs.  The fat content may not be the best, but most of their breakfast offerings are similar.

One news report I heard said something like, "yeah, but that would be half the recommended daily caloric intake for a typical woman."  So, I guess men should be forced to order two breakfasts so that women won't feel bad watching them eat a big breakfast sandwich?

Sheesh.

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You are spot on Mr. Hill.  Eventually, ( in the next 5 years) the appropriate focus (ie., genetic predisposition) will be publicized, & the information passed on in the popular media willl be protein  content, simple  & complex carbohydrate levels, & hopefully the omega-3, et. al., fatty acid composition.  The good news for most HG athletes is that if you have no first degree relatives with heart attacks before the age of 50, & you do not have high blood pressure or diabetes, then what you eat, especially if you are physically active, (& this does NOT mean aerobics) plays a very small role in your cardiovascular health.  You will get fat if you eat the "wrong" stuff, but it will not lead to the gloomy, unenjoyable future portrayed by the spandex-clad Barbie dolls of the "Oprah" circuit.
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Fried pork chop sandwich, now that is breakfast in the south baby.  I would suggest that genetics plays the dominant role of fat storage.  Extreme results will take extreme measures.  Back to my donut.
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